Civilian weapons

[Rey C.]

Great point Rey. One of things I've discussed with the better half is they removed thermometers that had mercury because of mental health issues, but there is an amount of mercury that now they say we can ingest. Is it possible because of mercury, lead and other items that now mental and emotional ills are more prevalent?

I've read how lead may have affected the ancient Romans, especially the lead that was in their favorite beverage: wine. And there was a show on the History Channel about how lead intake basically drove certain members of a Chinese dynasty completely mad. But I'm not sure about whether lead or mercury intake has anything to do with our issues. It's an interesting question though. We seem to be becoming increasingly fucked up, but I don't know why.

Powerful assault rifle is a very different thing than a small caliber single fire pistol.


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Yes, that is correct. But considering that the overwhelming majority of gun crimes are committed with small caliber handguns, and not "assault weapons", I'm still at a loss to understand the point being made. As for assault weapons being "powerful", most of them are MUCH less powerful than even the lowest caliber hunting rifle. Most fire rounds that are medium power cartridges. I'm not arguing that AK-47s or AR-15s with 75 round drum mags aren't more effective killing machines than a six shot revolver - they are. I'm just saying that their actual use in gun crimes is about as common as 200 mph sports cars being used in bank robberies. When they are used, it makes the news. But they're a small, small part of the issue.

 

[assari]

I'm just saying that their actual use in gun crimes is about as common as 200 mph sports cars being used in bank robberies. When they are used, it makes the news. But they're a small, small part of the issue.

The point was; Would it better that all the other weapons ban except tiny single fire pistols.

 

[Rey C.]

The point was; Would it better that all the other weapons ban except tiny single fire pistols.

You can ban anything you like. All a ban represents is words on a piece of paper - it doesn't guarantee that people will abide by your ban. Cocaine and heroin are banned here. But though I'm not a drug user, I bet I could take a 30 minute drive and buy a nice quantity of either one. Your idea of a ban also ignores the objectionable guns that are already in circulation, as well as those that are produced in other places. Just like heroin and coke, we don't produce many of these weapons here.

 

[tartanterrier]

All firearms should be banned unless they are used for sport and have the proper licenses for using them.

 

[assari]

All firearms should be banned unless they are used for sport and have the proper licenses for using them.

Traditional gun is not necessarily the most effective weapon for self defence or home defence.


1. Angry guard dog

2. "Chiken shit room"

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

You must not change society to deal with the few in the end you only punish the many.

I refuse to live in fear of everything that may or may not be dangerous in the world.

Whats next personal cocoons to get out viruses and germs???

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Prove it !
Get the official numbers.

Get 'em yourself....or do I have to invade your country and make you surrender to get something done?

Try google. I know it's true, you're the one with doubts.

 

[Johan]

Get 'em yourself....or do I have to invade your country and make you surrender to get something done?

Try google. I know it's true, you're the one with doubts.

my point is, you can't just tell "drunk driving kills more than gun violenc", you have to back that argument with actual numbers and facts. This is wat politicians do, they say "This happens more often that". But they don't provide the actual numbers (or they provide some numbers but they don't say where the numbers come from) and when you do a little research, you rlise they are lying. But 90% of the people won't do it, they would just believe what the guy said. And they build their opinion about some controversy with quotes from politicians that are lies.

This is how the Bush administration made the US people think that the US should attack Iraq, buy telling them that Saddam was involved in 9/11, wich was a lie. Some medias did the job and said it was a lie but no one listened to them because "Saddam is in Al Qaida, he is a terrorist dictator, a friend of Bin Laden. these twwo bad guys are not linked to each other" was easier to tel and to understand than "Saddam has no implication in 9/11, He and Bin Laden are bad guys but they are not link to each other".

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Prove guns are the cause for violence. I have guns, never once have any of them sprouted little legs, and picked the lock on my safe, and made a conscience an effort to kill. I have an enormous amount of disdain, and hatred for most of the people I deal with on a daily basis. I carry a gun every day, and I deal with these people, and NOT ONCE, has the thought of shooting any of these wastes of human space EVERY crossed my mind. I've thought of punching one or two in the throat until they choke on their blood...but never have I considered using a gun to commit an act of violence. I play violent video games. I watch violent television, and movies.

YOU DON'T PUNISH THE LAW ABIDING, FOR THE ACTIONS OF OTHERS!!

 

[STDiva]

Prove guns are the cause for violence. I have guns, never once have any of them sprouted little legs, and picked the lock on my safe, and made a conscience an effort to kill. I have an enormous amount of disdain, and hatred for most of the people I deal with on a daily basis. I carry a gun every day, and I deal with these people, and NOT ONCE, has the thought of shooting any of these wastes of human space EVERY crossed my mind. I've thought of punching one or two in the throat until they choke on their blood...but never have I considered using a gun to commit an act of violence. I play violent video games. I watch violent television, and movies.

YOU DON'T PUNISH THE LAW ABIDING, FOR THE ACTIONS OF OTHERS!!

Than what do you do? Allow wackos to get guns just so people like you can have theirs?

If gun enthusiasts want to keep their right to own guns, than they should support stricter laws and make them less available. Fighting for your right to bear arms, which I support, is also fighting to keep guns readily available for those who shouldn't have them. Ever heard the term on bad apple ruins the bunch? Well these wackos are ruining it for you. Something has to be done. Things can't continue in this direction. And if people think things are fine the way they are, you're accepting these tragedies as collateral damage. It's ok as long as you keep your guns, right?

 

[TheOrangeCat]

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, and .. yaaaaawn ..... how about we ban car ownership? Even cars with automatic transmission.

Want to compare statistics ... (hint: you don't)

 

[STDiva]

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, and .. yaaaaawn ..... how about we ban car ownership? Even cars with automatic transmission.

Want to compare statistics ... (hint: you don't)

So its ok that mass shootings happen? Since cars happen to be involved in more deaths. Accidental. That makes it ok? As long as guns don't kill the most people, its ok.

 

[STDiva]

Also, welcome back? Have you been back? A few of us noticed your absence. Not a bad Christmas present

 

[Cubs Suck]

You do know that the fear of impending gun control will cause people to stockpile more guns right now, right?

I myself just bought some more to add to my arsenal.

If anyone tried to take my piece from me, I'll shoot him.

 

[TheOrangeCat]

How i love my STDiva .... but, seriously ... all car wrecks are accidental?

For instance .. I get drunk at a bar and decide to drive home (no, that NEVER happens) and in the resulting accident people are killed ... surely the 1.20 tone weapon I pointed and shot at my victim at between 20-100mph can't be considered in any comparison with, say, deciding to point a gun at someone and then pull the trigger of said gun?

 

[subguy]

West Germany? You pulled a 20 year old statistic out of your ass?

 

[subguy]

In all the threads on guns thus far, I haven't seen this discussed:

1) effect since mental care was stripped to the bone by Reagan.
2) effect since the drug culture started in the 60's

 

[TheOrangeCat]

In all the threads on guns thus far, I haven't seen this discussed:

1) effect since mental care was stripped to the bone by Reagan.
2) effect since the drug culture started in the 60's

Probably because - like bitters in a cocktail - their effect and influence are negligible.

 

[STDiva]

How i love my STDiva .... but, seriously ... all car wrecks are accidental?

For instance .. I get drunk at a bar and decide to drive home (no, that NEVER happens) and in the resulting accident people are killed ... surely the 1.20 tone weapon I pointed and shot at my victim at between 20-100mph can't be considered in any comparison with, say, deciding to point a gun at someone and then pull the trigger of said gun?

No. You didn't get behind the wheel and decide to kill people. Your car wasn't designed to kill. It's not even remotely the same.

 

[subguy]

No. You didn't get behind the wheel and decide to kill people. Your car wasn't designed to kill. It's not even remotely the same.

Neither were three wheelers, but the government wiped them out in favor of four wheelers. Why? Because they killed nevertheless.
(I didn't care because I liked Suzuki anyhow).

Why not have a breathalyzer ignition on a car? Why not? You don't hear an uproar about this... You would if a DUI driver killed a bunch of kids. But the deaths are two or three at a time from dui's. the total exceeds gun deaths though.