Che Guevara a war criminal and mass murderer

Although he is claimed to be a doctor from his homeland Argentina, he never did graduate from medical school. In fact he dropped out to join the fomenting Marxist revolution in Cuba funded by the Soviet Union.

Upon his arrival in Cuba, Fidel Castro was the reigning leader of the militant left ready to overthrow the corrupt regime of Fulgencio Batista, the 17th president of Cuba.

Many of the early leaders of the Cuban revolution favored a democratic government, but Che and Castro were well known hard liner supporters of Soviet communism. As Castro gained more power, the democratic supporters had less of an influence eliminating the chances of a future democratic process.

After the July 1959 overthrow of Batista’s regime, Che presided over the first firing squads and established labor camps across the country modeled after the Soviet gulags. He acted as judge, jury and executioner of which he personally took pride. He wrote in his essay,

“To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary… These are the procedures of the bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the teaching of the Wall!”

To invoke the Berlin Wall built by his comrades from Russia, was a testament to the process of dealing with dissidents and the elimination of opposition of the newly formed communist Cuban dictatorship; and eliminate they did.

Through these newly formed labor camps, Che ordered the death of hundreds of thousands of helpless Cubans including women and children as young as 14 years old. He personally executed over 180 individual people, though some say much more fell at his own hands. A special detail at the camps was appointed to deal with the “gay problem” as they were imprisoned as well and journalists were given no free voice as promised.

Following the takeover of the government, this newly formed Soviet backed regime created a police state that incarcerated a greater percentage of its people than Joseph Stalin’s regime.

During the Kennedy administration in 1962, after much debate as to whether the Soviets even had any involvement with the Cuban revolution or its development of its government, Russian Premier Nikita Khrushchev worked with Castro to place nuclear-armed ballistic missiles in Cuba, ending one debate by beginning a new one.

After Kennedy met with the Soviet representatives, the event ended without nuclear war and the missiles were removed. However, Che was not happy with the outcome and both he and Castro felt betrayed by their Soviet big brother. Che was quoted in the Cuban Socialist newspaper The Daily Worker as saying, “if the rockets had remained, we would have used them all and directed them against the very heart of the United States, including New York…”

In 1965, after securing Castro’s supremacy in Cuba, Che was contracted by the Russians to help spread the Soviet expansion by aiding and training the rebels in Congolese Africa. While there he became frustrated with the lack of progress the revolution had achieved against the “European invaders.” Especially disappointing was that their love of violence did not meet or exceed his. He voiced his frustrations by stating,

“The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have conserved their racial purity by a lack of affinity with washing, have seen their patch invaded by a different kind of slave: the Portuguese…. the black is indolent and fanciful, he spends his money on frivolity and drink; the European comes from a tradition of working and saving which follows him to this corner of America and drives him to get ahead.”

When he decided to leave Africa and abandon the Soviet expansion efforts there he later spoke on a radio talk show with Louis Pons and stated,

“We’re going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing.”

Two years later in 1967 Che traveled to Bolivia to foment revolution where ironically not a single peasant joined him or the Soviet Revolution. Also ironically he soon found listening ears within the Middle upper class instead and they soon followed him in killing thousands of innocent Bolivians in a short lived rebellion. Soon after Bolivian police hunted him down with aid from United States Intelligence and brought him in.

His captors later stated, “He was very brave when he was at La Cabana Fortress murdering innocent civilians, including a 14 year old child, but he seemed really scared after he was captured.”

Reportedly Che pleaded for his life stating, “I am much more valuable to you alive than dead.”

Apparently his captors didn’t agree. He was dealt with as he dealt with countless others, sent to the firing squad and executed.

At a screening at the Sundance film festival for the movie, “Motorcycle Diaries” based on Che’s book, the audience stood and enthusiastically applauded. Some have asked if they know what they are applauding… or whom? Those who support Che in Hollywood and leftist circles in Academia claim in response that Che Guevara was a free thinker and an idealist revolutionary.

Supporters have also claimed that the revolution was long ago and Cuba is better off now.

As of this writing though, a tremendous social struggle is boiling in Cuba. Dissident liberals have demanded fundamental human rights from their communist leader and in response all but one leader has been imprisoned.

Among those imprisoned is an important Cuban journalist who was sentenced to 20 years in prison. He has spurred a new type of revolution by Cubans campaigning to establish a system of independent libraries across the country free of state control. The country struggles with a shortage of informative reading material following the hundreds of book burnings led by Che following the revolution. Totalitarian repression has fallen on this campaign as well.

Is this the “Free Thinking” Che’s supporters had in mind? To those that proudly wear the iconic picture of Che on their t-shirts, it must be asked is this the “Idealism” they had envisioned? Is this the man that is revered by those that choose to Idolize him in film?

Che’s form of communism, which he learned from his mentors the Soviets, has collectively claimed the lives of over 100 million people over the last century and counting as the Chinese Communist regime resumes its policies. That is two times the entire death toll of World War II and 16 times the death toll of the infamous Nazi death camps.

With such a bloodlust for violence and an obvious hatred for true freedom and the democratic process, Ernesto Che Guevara clearly does not have the ingredients of a leader in history we would call a hero, not by any stretch of the imagination. Was he a murderer? He is only identified as such by his own action and words… and he doesn’t seem to mind. Truly he was the “Cold killing machine” he urged others to become.

Someday someone will make a film to remember those that have died at the hands of the “Cold Killing Machine” of communism, and condemn their executioners. Then… real history will be known.

Communism is estimated to have killed around 100 million people, yet its crimes have not been compiled and its ideology still persists. Epoch Times seeks to expose the history and beliefs of this movement, which has been a source of tyranny and destruction since it emerged.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/was-che-guevara-a-hero-or-murderer_2242312.html
 
Guevara wasn't a good person ?
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When I was in high school and then in college, I use to see a lot of people wearing Che Guevara T-shirt or caps.
I don't think must of these guys knew Guevara's life. To them he was just a symbol, the symbol of rebellion against capitalism, against the establishment.
But Che is no longer that symbol, he's no longer the face of rebellion. His face has been replaced by the Guy Fawkes mask thanks to two events : the V for Vendetta movie (written by the Wachowsky Bros, their first work since the Matrix trilogy) in which it is used by one of the character who's fighting against tyrannical government and the beginning of the rise of the Anonymous hacking organisation.
Both the movie and the group had high impact on teenagers and are still very positively perceived by today's teenagers

Anyway, off course Guevara is not someone to admire but, only hardcore Far-Left fanatics admire him. The same people who think Chavez was a great leader. The average moderate leftist like me doesn't admire Guevara. Some might have as teenagers but they since went from far-left to center-left and we see people like Tony Blair or Gerhard Schroder, not Che Guevara or Mao Tse-Tung as models).
Saying that Guevara was terrible and is not someone that should be admired is like saying Mao was not a good leader : Many leftists used ot admire him but now most leftists agreed he was terrible.
 

Supafly

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Yo, Beatsie, mah nig, totally came out of left field on this Guevara thing

That guy was no saint? Who knew!

Good thing you settled it :coolthumb:
 

Will E Worm

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Che Guevara embodied hatred. Using his own words, he exulted “hatred as an element of the struggle” to transform a person into a “violent, selective and cold killing machine.


Guevara was not shy about his heinous crimes.

In New York in December 1964, while attending a meeting at the United Nations, he famously declared: “We have executed, we are executing and we will continue to execute.”


During the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, Guevara expressed support for unleashing nuclear war with the United States and was reportedly furious when the Soviet Union withdrew the offensive weapons later that autumn after the crisis was defused.

Apparently, the millions of Cuban, Russian and American lives that would have been lost as a result of an exchange of nuclear forces were a price he was willing to pay for what he termed “a better world.”

In the early years of the Castro regime, Guevara forcefully advocated for eliminating the rights of assembly, due process, free speech and free press, replacing these cherished entitlements with isolation, injustice, terror and death.

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Sounds like antifa.
 
Yeah, Che was a dick and a mass murderer, but he was a good communist.

"The point was not that Stalin is evil, but that Communism is more evil, and that, acting through his person, it found its supremely logical manifestation. The important point was not the character of Stalin, but the character of Communism, which, with an intuitive grasp that was at once the source of his strength and his mandate to power, Stalin was carrying to its inevitable development as the greatest of the fascist forms." - Whittaker Chambers
 
There is a terrific three part mini series about him by Steven Soderbergh. Benicio Del Toro plays Che Guevara. It might be on Netflix. God I love part when he got his commie red ass plugged. I love the Cold War. Lets have another one. Oh wait. We already are.

 

Jagger69

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Yo, Beatsie, mah nig, totally came out of left field on this Guevara thing

That guy was no saint? Who knew!

Good thing you settled it :coolthumb:

Yeah. And add to the fact the dude has been dead for over 60 years....

This just in....Hermann Goering was NOT a good person! LOL :rolleyes:

Johan is right about the symbolism. He's an anti-establishment martyr who is largely myth (as are most martyrs).

OK, that's settled. What's up next, guys? :dunno:
 

Supafly

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Yeah. And add to the fact the dude has been dead for over 60 years....

This just in....Hermann Goering was NOT a good person! LOL :rolleyes:

Johan is right about the symbolism. He's an anti-establishment martyr who is largely myth (as are most martyrs).

OK, that's settled. What's up next, guys? :dunno:

Looks like Fox ain't no saint, either. I always thought he is such a great person.

Life sucks.
 

Rey C.

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When I was in high school and then in college, I use to see a lot of people wearing Che Guevara T-shirt or caps.

You're a good bit younger than me, but that was also the case when I was in college. A friend of mine had a Che t-shirt in his collection of "cool" shirts (he also had a Charles Manson t-shirt, as well as Bob Marley smoking a huge joint, Cheech & Chong and Jimi Hendrix shirts). He didn't really know the fine details about this murderous, racist fanatic. And although he leaned to the left, he wasn't a Marxist or a Commie. Much like many of the kids who wear Confederate flag t-shirts these days, it was just about being anti-establishment, edgy and kewl. Kids (and more than a few adults) are basically herd animals, just like sheep; they'll go with whatever their group says is cool.

Even Mercedes-Benz, of all companies, featured ol' Che in an ad about five years ago... thinking this would make them cool among the younger demographic. And within 48 hours, they'd pulled the ad and were apologizing:

“Daimler was not condoning the life or actions of this historical figure or the political philosophy he espoused. We sincerely apologize to those who took offense.”

A Daimler spokesman also said, “It was very thoughtless not to realize that by doing that, it would offend a large number of people.” Added the PR person, who thought up the use of Che Guevara’s image: “It was absolutely stupid that somebody did it.”



I'm not plugged into what kids these days think is cool or edgy. But I'd say that Che does still have a following among some - especially some of these Antifa types who embrace violence and anarchy. The "white washed" film The Motorcycle Diaries portrays the early life of Guevara in a very positive light. I watched it and if I hadn't known the truth, I would have thought of him as a good dude, who was flawed but had his heart in the right place. The truth is, he had no heart and he was a pure piece of shit. But maybe it's not as cool to hype him as it used to be. I don't know.

Here's my favorite picture of Comrade Che:

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Now I do say: they fucked his shit up. Yes siree! :coolthumb: :banger:
 

xfire

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Looks like Fox ain't no saint, either. I always thought he is such a great person.Life sucks.

Yep, I was always a fan of his until he lost his fucking mind, not sure how that happened, probably undue influence, but whose to say, really.

Dat Internet Tourettes Syndrome, Tho; "MAGA (fucking liberals need to die, cuck cuck cucks)."


Much like many of the kids who wear Confederate flag t-shirts these days, it was just about being anti-establishment, edgy and kewl. Kids (and more than a few adults) are basically herd animals, just like sheep; they'll go with whatever their group says is cool.

Nice comparison, and spot on.
 

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