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Ari Dee

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While I do agree that greed is certainly part of why cannabis/ hemp was criminalized.. I believe the birth of marijuana prohibition/ criminalization was more about demonizing what was seen as "black culture".
It was one of many scare tactics used to demonize "jazz culture" and PoC so that white people would fear them and any use of marijuana.

As a high schooler one of my biggest research papers for AP English was about the benefits of hemp products, it was quite the eye opener even as a straight-edge (at the time) teenager.
Hemp is SUCH a wonderful, multi-use crop.
 

Luxman

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Ari Dee, you should post more often, your comments are always articulate, insightful, and sexy. :cool:
 
Numerous studies have proved that smoking marijuana has devasstating co,sequences on your work, your school results, hov your brain functions, etc.
It may have been outlawed for wrog reasons but outalwing it was the right thing to do.
Still, I'm for decriminalising marijuana. The governments and the law enforcement forces have lost the war on marijuana. The fact that it is illegals in in fact a motivation for teenagers to buy, use and even sell it. And because marijuana is controlled by criminals organisations, the products end up to be even more dangerous 'cause there's no way for government to keep an eye on what is sold to people, no regulations to make sure that they don't make the product even more poisoning just to make it even more addictive
To me marijuana should be dealt with the same way we deal with tobacco. I'm pretty sure that once it will be legal, teenagers will find it a lot less attractive.
 

Harpsman

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Prohibition doesn't work. End of story.

The pros of cannabis outweigh the cons.

Continued criminalization of users is an indictment of any government.
 

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Jagger69

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Numerous studies have proved that smoking marijuana has devasstating co,sequences on your work, your school results, hov your brain functions, etc.
It may have been outlawed for wrog reasons but outalwing it was the right thing to do.

Let's see 'em then, Johan. I want to know who did them, how impartial they were and what were the other criteria that was involved in doing them. I know countless of casual recreational users of marijuana who display none of the effects that you cite.

Aside from the many positive benefits that marijuana possesses, continued efforts to keep it illegal are a joke since the law of supply and demand trumps any other laws every time. Millions of people (in the USA) want to smoke pot and growers and suppliers can make a great deal of illegal money from meeting their demand for it. Is legalization a panacea? Hell no, but it is a helluva lot better than continuing to make it a crime to possess, grow or distribute it. How many people are or have been locked up for participating in this "crime" over the years? How many tax dollars have been wasted in the ridiculous and failed "war on drugs" and how many tax dollars have been lost through illicit sales? Billions is a good place to start is my best guess.

I also agree with Ari's assertion that the original laws against marijuana were racially motivated....just like today's largely suburban and predominantly-white prescription opiod issue is described as an "crisis" whereas the crack issue that was largely urban and predominantly-black back in the 1980s was an "epidemic". The white user is a "victim" and the black user is a "crackhead".
 
From what I heard growing up (50s-60s) was in the early 20th century the tobacco industry bought Senators and Congressmen to pass laws that kept their poisonous product legal and pot illegal. Now racist views (and paid for junk science) may have reinforced those laws but were not the original reason.
 

Harpsman

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In his book "Chasing the Scream" Johann Hari argues that the way on drugs began with 1 man and his racist views influenced his attitude to the 'war.'
 
I think Cannabis should be legalized. As long as it is used responsibly there is no harm in using it.


And when have people used psychoactive substances responsibly?
 

Supafly

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A couple of points:

I believe that only those who do not read or otherwise learn ANYTHING about the newer developments regarding cannabis use, its variations and non-intoxicating forms and hardcore pharma industry management people dispute the various good things achievable by the cannabis products.

On a side note, the fact that the Buzzfeed staff woman has to couigh up almost 200 dollars just for a single visit with her doctor is further proof how broken the US healthcare system is. I have a number of handicaps, epilepsy, depressions, alcohol addiction, diabetes, now I have to get eye treatment (Injections onto my eyeballs to decrease the water pressure in them), etc. In Germany, I am fully covered with my healthcare. In the USA, I would be long gone, crippled, blind, another homeless corpse in some corner.

I am going to try and get medical marijuana, too. It's just common sense

Regarding Johan's input: Yes, Marijuana is not safe for all. Yes, there are dangers for those who are prone to addictions or children or teens who use it too early. But that is like prohibiting alcohol or tobacco.
 

Harpsman

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A couple of points:

I believe that only those who do not read or otherwise learn ANYTHING about the newer developments regarding cannabis use, its variations and non-intoxicating forms and hardcore pharma industry management people dispute the various good things achievable by the cannabis products.

On a side note, the fact that the Buzzfeed staff woman has to couigh up almost 200 dollars just for a single visit with her doctor is further proof how broken the US healthcare system is. I have a number of handicaps, epilepsy, depressions, alcohol addiction, diabetes, now I have to get eye treatment (Injections onto my eyeballs to decrease the water pressure in them), etc. In Germany, I am fully covered with my healthcare. In the USA, I would be long gone, crippled, blind, another homeless corpse in some corner.

I am going to try and get medical marijuana, too. It's just common sense

Regarding Johan's input: Yes, Marijuana is not safe for all. Yes, there are dangers for those who are prone to addictions or children or teens who use it too early. But that is like prohibiting alcohol or tobacco.

The sad thing is you can get what you need but by doing so you become a criminal. That's a shame. Vulnerable, needy people can be helped but they must criminalize themselves to do so.

Of course cannabis will not suit everyone and many will find that it is not for them. That's why proper controls should be in place. But the theory that it is a stepping stone to harder drugs is a total myth. By that logic everyone who tries/uses beer for example, they're going to end up alcoholics??

Don't believe the tripe.

Very good point by Icytea. :thumbsup:
 

Mayhem

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And when have people used psychoactive substances responsibly?

Constantly. Right now we are in the process of proving this in Nevada. July 1st was our day of jubilee. I have a shop that's 10 minutes walk from my door. I've always known plenty of people who use cannabis responsibly and I do too. The fact that no extraordinary means needs to be taken to purchase and own it makes things that much easier. Take your purchase home, wait until after work, or day off, and enjoy. And I'm certain that over time, surveys of opioid abuse, addiction and overdoses will go down. All this and tax revenue.
 

Harpsman

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Constantly. Right now we are in the process of proving this in Nevada. July 1st was our day of jubilee. I have a shop that's 10 minutes walk from my door. I've always known plenty of people who use cannabis responsibly and I do too. The fact that no extraordinary means needs to be taken to purchase and own it makes things that much easier. Take your purchase home, wait until after work, or day off, and enjoy. And I'm certain that over time, surveys of opioid abuse, addiction and overdoses will go down. All this and tax revenue.

The quote the Life of Brian - "you lucky lucky bastard!" :1orglaugh
 

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