BREAKING: Trump Reportedly Set to End DACA Program

[Straight Shooter]

A move that President Donald Trump is long-rumored to have been contemplating appears to be on the verge of happening.

According to Fox News, Trump will end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — better known as DACA — in its present form. The network cites a senior administration official as the source of the news, with the President reportedly set to officially announce the move tomorrow.

DACA grants undocumented immigrants who entered the U.S. as minors renewable two year work permits. Approximately 800,000 people — commonly referred to as “DREAMers” — stand to be impacted by Trump’s decision.

The fate of the program was a hot topic throughout the 2016 Presidential campaign. Trump promised to end the program immediately upon taking office — but reconsidered back in June, allowing the DREAMers to stay. Now, it appears he has reversed course once again, and DACA as we currently know it will no longer exist.

Watch above, via Fox News.

UPDATE –– 3:34 pm ET: During today’s White House press briefing, Homeland Security adviser Tom Bossert said no decision has been made yet and they’re “still reviewing” — and Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders confirmed that no decision has been made. Watch Bossert’s comments below.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-trump-will-reportedly-end-daca-program/

If he does this, he will lose any possibility of me ever supporting him. Believe it or not, I'm still willing to give him a chance since we're only 7 months into the presidency. Though I admit the likelihood of me backing this president is non-existant at this point, but nonetheless, as an optimist I still hold out hope that he can change. But if DACA is ended, he'll officially be dead to me. For some voters their number one issue is the 2nd Amendment. For others its SCOTUS. For me it's DACA. I do not have any family members who are undocumented yet that doesn't mean that I am unable to have empathy for these 'Dreamers'. I don't know how these politicians can sleep at night knowing they are breaking up families. Do they not have hearts? Are they unable to have empathy?

 

[Mayhem]

Believe it or not, I'm still willing to give him a chance since we're only 7 months into the presidency.

First he was "only" in office for a month. Then he was in office for "only" 100 days. Now he has "only" been on office for 7 months.

"Oh give him a break. He's only been in office for 2 years. Who knew being President was this complicated? Give the poor little muffin a chance."
I swear, that's what I'll be reading in 17 months.

 

[Rattrap]

I don't know how these politicians can sleep at night knowing they are breaking up families. Do they not have hearts? Are they unable to have empathy?

Conservative politics can't exist with empathy. The examples are numerous - Dick Cheney and gay marriage (against it, until it affected him), every red-state politician who voted against Sandy relief (against it, until now, when there's a hurricane up their asses), the Republican's whole women's healthcare platform (you'll notice there are never any women in/on these meetings/panels), a local Oregon Republican state senator who was vehemently against gun legislation until his son took his own life with a gun, stories like this, just to name a handful. Given the correlation between population densities approaching zero and conservatism, it fits.

So it's no wonder DACA's on the chopping block. And it's no wonder that you'll find large support for this among those that think that folks of a different color are, if not something less, at the very least an other. Nevermind that these kids had no responsibility on where they grew up, did not break the Golden Rule of the Right willfully, 'Thou shalt not enter this country unlawfully'*, nevermind that we'd basically be kicking out folks who are, for every intent and purpose short of a technicality of birth, American, to places they have little knowledge of. To mind these things, you'd have to have empathy.

So, another shitty (potential) move from our (definitely) shitty president.

* Don't get me wrong - this is a crime, and if willfully done (you know, unlike the Dreamers) there should be consequences. But we've got folks - even on this board - who will happily support a criminal who violated people's (illegal immigrants and Americans alike) constitutional rights, just because this particular piece of shit was 'tough of immigration'. Again, it's a position that lacks empathy.

 

[Straight Shooter]

Conservative politics can't exist with empathy. The examples are numerous - Dick Cheney and gay marriage (against it, until it affected him), every red-state politician who voted against Sandy relief (against it, until now, when there's a hurricane up their asses), the Republican's whole women's healthcare platform (you'll notice there are never any women in/on these meetings/panels), a local Oregon Republican state senator who was vehemently against gun legislation until his son took his own life with a gun, stories like this, just to name a handful. Given the correlation between population densities approaching zero and conservatism, it fits.

So it's no wonder DACA's on the chopping block. And it's no wonder that you'll find large support for this among those that think that folks of a different color are, if not something less, at the very least an other. Nevermind that these kids had no responsibility on where they grew up, did not break the Golden Rule of the Right willfully, 'Thou shalt not enter this country unlawfully'*, nevermind that we'd basically be kicking out folks who are, for every intent and purpose short of a technicality of birth, American, to places they have little knowledge of. To mind these things, you'd have to have empathy.

So, another shitty (potential) move from our (definitely) shitty president.

* Don't get me wrong - this is a crime, and if willfully done (you know, unlike the Dreamers) there should be consequences. But we've got folks - even on this board - who will happily support a criminal who violated people's (illegal immigrants and Americans alike) constitutional rights, just because this particular piece of shit was 'tough of immigration'. Again, it's a position that lacks empathy.

GOP Rep. King Defends Arpaio, Says DACA Recipients Should Turn In Parents
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/steve-king-arpaio-pardon

Turn in their parents? Wow. Can anyone who is against DACA truthfully say that if they were Dreamers they'd turn their own parents in to the federal government? That's the definition of coldhearted

 

[sean miguel]

President Trump is ending DACA which was set to expire but he's expending it for 6 months so lawmakers can come up with a solution.

He campaigned on this. Promises kept.

 

[sean miguel]

President Trump is ending DACA which was set to expire but he's expending it for 6 months so lawmakers can come up with a solution.

He campaigned on this. Promises kept.

*extending

 

[Mayhem]

President Trump is ending DACA which was set to expire but he's expending it for 6 months so lawmakers can come up with a solution.

He campaigned on this. Promises kept.

Kicking homeowners out of their homes, kicking students out of their schools, kicking gainfully employed people out of their jobs and kicking the whole lot out of the only country that they know. That is the campaign promise you want kept? And you're obtuse enough to think that, yee-haw Make America Great Again comes about with shit like this?

I am truly ashamed and embarrassed for you.

 

[sean miguel]

Kicking homeowners out of their homes, kicking students out of their schools, kicking gainfully employed people out of their jobs and kicking the whole lot out of the only country that they know. That is the campaign promise you want kept? And you're obtuse enough to think that, yee-haw Make America Great Again comes about with shit like this?

I am truly ashamed and embarrassed for you.

That's funny, because I didn't actually say in my post what my position is on this. Just stating he ran on it, and he's keeping his promise.

 

[Mayhem]

That's funny, because you voted for him, you support his policies and your wording makes it clear that you do in fact support an end to DACA.

BTW, maybe there was a time when I would play little semantic games like this (I don't think I did, but I could be wrong), but I'm not playing them now. You either condemn the dissolution of DACA or you support it. There is no middle ground, no ambivalence about this.

 

[sean miguel]

That's funny, because you voted for him, you support his policies and your wording makes it clear that you do in fact support an end to DACA.

BTW, maybe there was a time when I would play little semantic games like this (I don't think I did, but I could be wrong), but I'm not playing them now. You either condemn the dissolution of DACA or you support it. There is no middle ground, no ambivalence about this.

That's funny, because I didn't actually vote for him. And on it's face, I'm with Hack on this one. Unless someone can show otherwise. And military service should grant citizenship as far as I'm concerned.

I know, shocker.

 

[Mayhem]

Well then, I guess I should apologize and say I stand corrected. All I have for the time being, is my recollections of what I saw once or twice a month when I popped in here to peruse the latest, during my hiatus. You seem pretty supportive of Dear Leader and his policies. And since fucking with brown people is a cornerstone Conservative policy, I made what I feel is the logical conclusion that you feel the same way.

You said recently that Israel is where your loyalty goes. Not mine, but I respect that. S. Korea and Poland are my Israels, so we have that in common. But this is another area where I feel just as strongly. I say again, there is no fence sitting. If you're not in direct opposition of dissolving DACA, you at least tacitly support it (I'm saying this part generally). And supporting Dear Leader in this is way beyond the pale. There is nothing the least bit casual about it. What Dear Leader wants in un-American and abhorrent. ALL Americans should be disgusted.

Again, sorry for the mis-characterization.

 

[Will E Worm]

Trump has decided to end DACA, with 6-month delay

President Donald Trump has reportedly decided to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program — effective six months from Tuesday, when he will formally announce his decision.
Trump’s decision has, predictably, outraged amnesty activists, and frightened the establishment wing of the Republican Party. But it has also raised alarms among conservatives, who fear Congress could simply legislate amnesty in the next six months.

As frustrating as that may be to those who want to see DACA totally wiped off the books, and every one of its beneficiaries given a one-way bus ticket across the border, letting Congress decide what to do about the “Dreamers” is exactly what ought to happen.

In fact, Congress was poised to do just that in 2012, until then-President Barack Obama decided to ignore the Constitution’s separation of powers and dictate the “Dream Act by fiat” on his own.

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Fixing an unconstitutional act. :clap:

After DACA ends Trump needs to make this action binding; so no one else can come along and over-turn the decision.

Then end the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act, and go back to the original and Consitutional laws.

 

[mongo18]

That's funny, because I didn't actually vote for him.

Well then, I guess I should apologize and say I stand corrected.

Don't believe anything he says, he'll lie about anything to try to get the upper hand. He once told me his wife died of cancer and then bragged in pm about making me look like a dick.

I'm calling it now - Donald Trump will be one of the greatest and most successful presidents in this nation's history, certainly the greatest in my lifetime.

If he didn't vote trump, he sure was quick to jump on the trump train.

 

[Mayhem]

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Fixing an unconstitutional act. :clap:

After DACA ends Trump needs to make this action binding; so no one else can come along and over-turn the decision.

Then end the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act, and go back to the original and Consitutional laws.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ Will, do you get that you're complaining about an "unconstitutional act" in one sentence and promoting one in the other?

 

[Straight Shooter]

 

[Will E Worm]

Jesus Tapdancing Christ Will, do you get that you're complaining about an "unconstitutional act" in one sentence and promoting one in the other?

What's wrong with making an act permanent that puts America first?

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Not the greatest analogy but it's close.

The President should put this mess directly in the lap of Congress and make them decide what to do. And come the next couple election cycles he should beat them to death with their lack of decisive action.

 

[Mayhem]

What's wrong with making an act permanent that puts America first?

The Legislative Branch (y'know, one of the Big Three) makes an act permanent. Not the President. Something you'd know if you'd learn just a little bit more about how the government works ... than the current sitting President. Which also means that the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act (whatever the hell that is), is also a job for the Legislature. Thanx for playing.

The President should put this mess directly in the lap of Congress and make them decide what to do. And come the next couple election cycles he should beat them to death with their lack of decisive action.

Fuck, it pains me to agree with you. Now I can look forward to an evening of cramping, diarrhea, and the heartbreak of Psoriasis.

 

[Will E Worm]

The Legislative Branch (y'know, one of the Big Three) makes an act permanent. Not the President. Something you'd know if you'd learn just a little bit more about how the government works ... than the current sitting President. Which also means that the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act (whatever the hell that is), is also a job for the Legislature. Thanx for playing.

That's what I said. Making it permanent would mean going through the proper channels.

 

[ChuckFaze]

Not the greatest analogy but it's close.

The President should put this mess directly in the lap of Congress and make them decide what to do. And come the next couple election cycles he should beat them to death with their lack of decisive action.

Heyyy, very interesting analogy. Yep, it fits. Yeah, Trump is being made out to be the bad guy when the REAL bad guy, the guilty party here is the parents. THEY ... their actions back when are what put their children in the stressful limbo in which they now find themselves. Not Trump ending any DACA.