Any Predictions On The Outcome Of The Alec Baldwin Situation?

It was an accident and a tragic one. Obviously no one intended for that to happen. Alec Baldwin is involved directly. He is an actor and a producer of the film "Rust". Are there any legal people with crystal balls willing to give their opinion on possible civil consequences? I don't care about the man's politics, just the legal situation.

 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/alec-baldwin-inseparable-rust-shooting-070001969.html

Alec Baldwin ‘inseparable’ from ‘Rust’ shooting as he faces wrongful death lawsuit, legal experts weigh in​

Lauryn Overhultz
Tue, February 15, 2022, 11:00 PM

It's "a waiting game" when it comes to whether or not Alec Baldwin will see the inside of a courtroom regarding the wrongful death lawsuit he is now facing, according to legal experts.

Baldwin, 63, and others were named in a wrongful death lawsuit filed by cinematographer Halyna Hutchins' family Tuesday. Hutchins died on the set of "Rust" on Oct. 21 after a gun Baldwin was holding discharged.

Baldwin was named in the lawsuit because he is "inseparable" from the shooting of Hutchins, Rachel Fiset, managing partner of LA-based law firm Zweiback, Fiset & Coleman, told Fox News Digital.

"Alec Baldwin is inseparable from this incident on the set of 'Rust.' Not only was he the shooter and the closest association with the ‘cause’ of her ‘wrongful death,’ but he is also a big-name producer," Fiset, who is not involved in the case, explained. "In those roles, it is almost inescapable that any negligence or recklessness shown on the set will be tied to him — if not legally, then professionally and reputationally."

The Hutchins family is suing for punitive damages, funeral and burial expenses, among other things to be determined at a trial. However, according to some legal experts, it's unlikely that the wrongful death lawsuit will ever see a courtroom, as "most" civil cases in general settle outside of a courthouse.

"It's unlikely," former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani, who is also not involved in the case, told Fox News Digital. "One or 2% of [civil] cases go to trial."

In addition to civil cases not really making it to court in general, the attorney said that when it comes to the "Rust" lawsuit specifically, he believes people "with these kinds of assets" will "pay to make it go away."

Meanwhile, criminal defense attorney Duncan Levin – who is not involved in the suit either – told Fox News Digital that it's too early to tell if the lawsuit will be settled out of a courtroom.

"A vast minority of cases go to trial,' Levin said. "Most settle, but at this point, it's too early to tell. If he is charged with and convicted of a crime, it is far more likely that the case will settle, as losing a criminal case would mean he'd lose a civil as well."

California-based criminal defense attorney Lara Yeretsian advised that Baldwin's lawyers should settle the lawsuit "swiftly."

"The best thing that Alec Baldwin’s lawyers can do for him is to very swiftly settle this case," Yeretsian, who is also not involved, told Fox News Digital. "After all there’s still an ongoing criminal investigation, and although highly unlikely, Alec Baldwin may still be charged criminally."

The criminal investigation is still ongoing, with the most recent development being the retrieval of Baldwin's cellphone by the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Department. The sheriff's office had no comment on the wrongful death lawsuit when reached by Fox News Digital.

"The investigation remains open and ongoing," Juan Rios, a spokesperson for the sheriff's office, said in a statement.

Halyna Hutchins' family named Baldwin in the lawsuit. The family is suing for punitive damages, funeral and burial expenses among other things. <span class=copyright>Photo by Mark Sagliocco/Getty Images for National Geographic</span>


Halyna Hutchins' family named Baldwin in the lawsuit. The family is suing for punitive damages, funeral and burial expenses among other things. Photo by Mark Sagliocco/Getty Images for National Geographic

Legal experts told Fox News Digital that the civil case would also "trail" the criminal case and would likely be "stayed."

"Everyone has a Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, the right to remain silent," Rahmani explained. "So, they don't have to sit for a deposition in a civil case until the D.A. announces that there's no criminal charges or that charges are actually filed, a complaint or a grand jury indictment, and the criminal case concludes."

"Likely, this civil lawsuit is going to be stayed, or put on hold pending the criminal case."

Yeretsian noted that Baldwin's lawyers could request the civil case be "stayed," but emphasized that a "quick settlement" could be beneficial for the actor.

"His lawyers can request that the civil proceedings be stayed pending the criminal investigation; however, Alec Baldwin’s public image would benefit from a quick settlement," she explained.

In the event the lawsuit does go to trial, the Hutchins family's lawyers will attempt to place as much blame as possible on Baldwin, according to Rahmani. New Mexico is a "several liability state" and damages will be "apportioned" based on percent of fault.

"If someone is 10% at fault, they pay for 10% of the damages," he further explained.

Baldwin's lawyers denied the actor was "reckless" on the set of "Rust" in a statement shared with Fox News Digital on Tuesday.

"Everyone’s hearts and thoughts remain with Halyna’s family as they continue to process this unspeakable tragedy," attorney Aaron Dyer said on behalf of Baldwin. "We continue to cooperate with the authorities to determine how live ammunition arrived on the ‘Rust’ set in the first place. Any claim that Alec was reckless is entirely false."

"He, Halyna and the rest of the crew relied on the statement by the two professionals responsible for checking the gun that it was a ‘cold gun’ — meaning there is no possibility of a discharge, blank or otherwise," the statement continued.

"This protocol has worked on thousands of films, with millions of discharges, as there has never before been an incident on a set where an actual bullet harmed anyone. Actors should be able to rely on armorers and prop department professionals, as well as assistant directors, rather than deciding on their own when a gun is safe to use," it concluded.

Baldwin continues to make headlines as he returns to work and publicly speaks out about his life amid the ongoing investigation.

"This is a complicated situation, but we're seeing prosecutors and investigators perform a very thorough investigation despite all of the media attention," Levin told Fox News Digital. "At this point, it's just a waiting game to see what's done."
 
Without reading the article, I'll take a stab.
I've seen more than enough evidence that the company was negligent. Like, grossly negligent. Cost cutting, unreasonable work schedules and a whole bunch of factors which made for a powder keg of an accident waiting to happen. I read that the company even made t-shirts mocking the crew who were complaining about the conditions. Plus, you have a dead mother vs a million $ company. If this went to a jury, I don't think they'd have a chance.

Alec himself though, I don't see as being personally liable (at least, not as the shooter). I know some border agents who are firearms experts and even they would have a hard time distinguishing if a sixshooter was loaded with real bullets or blanks. And AFAIK Alec isn't a gun expert, so he wouldn't have been able to tell the difference, even if he did have rehearsals. At least, not before the first shot was fired.

So the company would want to settle.

And the other hand, the company is Alec's personal one, right? I don't think the movie is getting made, and even if it did, it'd be a flop, so with everything going on and no income from the movie, there might even be a chance it will be bankrupt before trial. If I were the plaintiff, I would also want to settle before they claim bankruptcy and you get nothing.

So both sides have a huge incentive to settle and that's how I see it ending
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I didn't read it either, all I know is, no matter who hands you a gun, for whatever reason, that person should check to make sure it's clear, and watch as the person he/she hands it to, checks it also, I realize that a great deal of the people in film today aren't into guns, but it is part of their job, and anyone working on a set that is using firearms, should have to be educated on their use, just like a ccw holder is. But the fact is, his movie, his responsibility. When you hand someone a firearm, you hand it to them with the action open, so they can clearly see what's going on with it. Anyone that has ever been in a gun shop, has to have noticed that every time you ask to see a pistol, the clerk checks it, befor he hands it to you.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
As the article notes, 1-2% of civil cases go to trial. A settlement seems like a very safe bet.

Baldwin the actor may be able to avoid damages, but Baldwin the producer would be on the hook. Given the end result, proving some form of negligence on the set would seem fairly easy.

If I were the plaintiff, I would also want to settle before they claim bankruptcy and you get nothing.
Keep in mind they likely had liability insurance. Even if the insured goes bankrupt, the insurers would still be liable for limits.
 
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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
As the article notes, 1-2% of civil cases go to trial. A settlement seems like a very safe bet.

Baldwin the actor may be able to avoid damages, but Baldwin the producer would be on the hook. Given the end result, proving some form of negligence on the set would seem fairly easy.


Keep in mind they likely had liability insurance. Even if the insured goes bankrupt, the insurers would still be liable for limits.
That is a good point. Civil cases, at least for the most apparently, and well to do, and the famous, almost always settle WITH conditions regarding amounts and terms. I guess spending an extra million, is better then details and dirty laundry being splattered all over the industry. This is likely going to cost him in the long run too, with future work prospects.
 
He's a rich famous white guy with a lot of connections. Really, what are the chances you guys think he gets in significant trouble even if he was guilty, be honest?

At most I suspect he pays an undisclosed amount of cash that's a small part of his fortune to settle the situation, assuming others don't just pay it for him, like the producers of the film.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
He's a rich famous white guy with a lot of connections. Really, what are the chances you guys think he gets in significant trouble even if he was guilty, be honest?

At most I suspect he pays an undisclosed amount of cash that's a small part of his fortune to settle the situation, assuming others don't just pay it for him, like the producers of the film.
Don't they all? The fucked up part, is how a dollar amount gets put on a life, and silence.
 
Keep in mind they likely had liability insurance. Even if the insured goes bankrupt, the insurers would still be liable for limits.
Fair point, but lets not forget that insurance policies differ greatly, and will often go out of their way to find a way not to pay out.

I mean, if all this was 100% covered by insurance, I don't think we would even talking about a lawsuit, right?
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Fair point, but lets not forget that insurance policies differ greatly, and will often go out of their way to find a way not to pay out.

I mean, if all this was 100% covered by insurance, I don't think we would even talking about a lawsuit, right?
They will still defend their insured. Liability insurance isn't like typical property (auto, home, etc.) insurance, so litigation is often necessary to get benefits. The issue is typically the plaintiff demands an amount in excess of policy limits.
 
That is a good point. Civil cases, at least for the most apparently, and well to do, and the famous, almost always settle WITH conditions regarding amounts and terms. I guess spending an extra million, is better then details and dirty laundry being splattered all over the industry. This is likely going to cost him in the long run too, with future work prospects.
Good points
 
This dizzy person(?) was the armorer. This person looks like one of those people Ron DeSantis is trying to keep from grooming your second grader. I don't think even Disney would hire this person now.

 
Alec Baldwin and Halyna Hutchins’s Family Reach ‘Rust’ Settlement
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...ENUS_A1_00010101_1_1&bep_ref=1&bep_csid=58510

Production of the film will resume in January, with Matthew Hutchins, Ms. Hutchins’s widower, as executive producer, according to the terms of the settlement.
In Mr. Hutchins’s statement on Wednesday, he said he had “no interest in engaging in recriminations or attribution of blame” to Mr. Baldwin or any other producers.

So he took the money and let them get off via settlement. The settlement was no surprise, but him becoming exec producer is fucked up IMO.
 
I'm surprised they decided to pick up the production of the film to complete it. The release of the film to the public should be interesting.
I can't imagine why they thought it was a good idea to go through with it. They could have written it off like Batgirl - at least they would have got some benefit from it.
The story/setting isn't particularly original or unique, so I don't think the world would have missed out on a masterpiece if it was trashed.

From a legal standpoint, while the article is correct in that the settlement doesn't directly affect the decision to federally prosecute for the crimes, going through with the civil suit and getting a judgement against Alec/the company would have been HUGE on the likelihood of getting a conviction for the criminal trial. That alone would have been worth going through with the civil suit, but instead the widower copped out and just reduced his wife's life to a price tag.
 
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