5 Million Illegals to Get Amenisty

If you were a illegal immigration that enter the United States since 201, Obama will use executive order to allow you to stay. However suspected terrorists and known gang members will be deported.

Obama to transform immigration policy, spare 5 million from deportation

White House confident controversial executive action can survive Republicans’ political and legal challenges


Olivier Knox
41 minutes ago
Yahoo News

President Barack Obama on Thursday will announce a legacy-defining plan to transform U.S. immigration policy, sparing up to 5 million people from deportation and defying Republicans who charge that he is breaking the law.

White House officials expressed rock-solid confidence that Obama’s sweeping executive actions will survive any political or legal challenges and practically dared GOP lawmakers to attempt to get their way with a government shutdown.

But Obama won’t to take any chances in the court of public opinion. The president, top White House aides, and Cabinet officials will crisscross the country to make the case to affected populations and the broader public, officials told reporters at a briefing in the White House Roosevelt Room hours before the announcement.

The administration will also step up “very, very aggressive” efforts in Central America to make sure that people there don’t respond to the news of more lenient treatment for those who come to the United States illegally by attempting to make the trip themselves. Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry have reached out to leaders of relevant countries in recent weeks to get their help with that campaign, one official said at the briefing.

Obama’s far-reaching plan rests on three core proposals: Making certain classes of individuals eligible for protection from deportation; raising the bar for what kind of criminal activity triggers deportation; and modestly expanding the number of people qualified to immigrate to the United States legally.

Arguably the most important shift will see parents of U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents be spared deportation if they have been in the United States longer than five years and pass a background check. That population, estimated at about 4 million, will be eligible for work permits. Felons, people convicted of serious misdemeanors and those with suspected ties to extremist groups would not be eligible. Officials emphasized that this was not a pathway to citizenship.

This shift, which the White House calls “deportation protection” and Republicans call “amnesty,” is intended to last for three years but could be reversed by the next president. Republicans complain privately that Obama has essentially locked in the next administration unless they are willing to brave the political blowback that would certainly greet a decision to reverse course and press ahead with millions of deportations.

Obama will also expand the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. He will entirely remove the age cap, which requires beneficiaries to be under 31 years old as of June 15, 2012. Beneficiaries will have to have arrived before they were 16. And he will also expand eligibility by shifting the date by when they have to have arrived in the United States from June 15, 2007, to Jan. 1, 2010. The White House expects that 270,000 people would qualify.

Obama will also press ahead with changes to the way the Department of Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) enforces deportations, aides said.

Currently, an undocumented immigration arrested for a broken taillight would be processed by local police, who would alert ICE. ICE would launch deportation proceedings. Under the new system, ICE would only move to expel individuals who fell into certain categories: if they had been convicted of a serious offense, for example, or had ties to extremist groups, or if they crossed the border after Jan. 1, 2014.

“We’re going to focus on deporting felons, not families,” one official said at the briefing.

Finally, the plan would make it easier for entrepreneurs and workers in so-called “STEM” fields — science, technology, engineering and math — to come to the United States and to stay longer than they currently can.

Obama considered extending some protections to the parents of so-called Dreamers — brought to the United States as minors — and to agricultural workers, but ultimately decided he lacked the authority to do so. Still, some unknown number of each category is likely to benefit from the other changes, officials said.

Anticipating a Republican counterattack, aides insisted that Obama’s actions were legal. They pointed to executive actions from Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush to protect some categories of people from deportation. And they said the changes to deportation policy amounted to “pretty routine” prosecutorial discret

But Obama won’t to take any chances in the court of public opinion. The president, top White House aides, and Cabinet officials will crisscross the country to make the case to affected populations and the broader public, officials told reporters at a briefing in the White House Roosevelt Room hours before the announcement.

The administration will also step up “very, very aggressive” efforts in Central America to make sure that people there don’t respond to the news of more lenient treatment for those who come to the United States illegally by attempting to make the trip themselves. Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry have reached out to leaders of relevant countries in recent weeks to get their help with that campaign, one official said at the briefing.

Obama’s far-reaching plan rests on three core proposals: Making certain classes of individuals eligible for protection from deportation; raising the bar for what kind of criminal activity triggers deportation; and modestly expanding the number of people qualified to immigrate to the United States legally.

Arguably the most important shift will see parents of U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents be spared deportation if they have been in the United States longer than five years and pass a background check. That population, estimated at about 4 million, will be eligible for work permits. Felons, people convicted of serious misdemeanors and those with suspected ties to extremist groups would not be eligible. Officials emphasized that this was not a pathway to citizenship.

This shift, which the White House calls “deportation protection” and Republicans call “amnesty,” is intended to last for three years but could be reversed by the next president. Republicans complain privately that Obama has essentially locked in the next administration unless they are willing to brave the political blowback that would certainly greet a decision to reverse course and press ahead with millions of deportations.

Obama will also expand the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. He will entirely remove the age cap, which requires beneficiaries to be under 31 years old as of June 15, 2012. Beneficiaries will have to have arrived before they were 16. And he will also expand eligibility by shifting the date by when they have to have arrived in the United States from June 15, 2007, to Jan. 1, 2010. The White House expects that 270,000 people would qualify.

Obama will also press ahead with changes to the way the Department of Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) enforces deportations, aides said.

Currently, an undocumented immigration arrested for a broken taillight would be processed by local police, who would alert ICE. ICE would launch deportation proceedings. Under the new system, ICE would only move to expel individuals who fell into certain categories: if they had been convicted of a serious offense, for example, or had ties to extremist groups, or if they crossed the border after Jan. 1, 2014.

“We’re going to focus on deporting felons, not families,” one official said at the briefing.

Finally, the plan would make it easier for entrepreneurs and workers in so-called “STEM” fields — science, technology, engineering and math — to come to the United States and to stay longer than they currently can.

Obama considered extending some protections to the parents of so-called Dreamers — brought to the United States as minors — and to agricultural workers, but ultimately decided he lacked the authority to do so. Still, some unknown number of each category is likely to benefit from the other changes, officials said.

Anticipating a Republican counterattack, aides insisted that Obama’s actions were legal. They pointed to executive actions from Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush to protect some categories of people from deportation. And they said the changes to deportation policy amounted to “pretty routine” prosecutorial discretion.

That argument, in essence, holds that law enforcement agencies never have enough resources and are therefore always making decisions about whom to prosecute.

Asked whether Republicans could stall or roll back Obama’s new initiatives, the aides all but brushed aside the possibility.

They said the GOP would be unlikely to withhold money from the Department of Homeland Security, essentially making all enforcement difficult. They noted that a government shutdown would not halt the issuance of work permits, because the agency is funded by application fees.

Republicans could take the administration to court, they acknowledged. “Anybody with a filing fee can sue. Nothing we can do about that,” one aide said. Obama relied on opinions from the Justice Department and believes he is acting “squarely within the law.” And Republicans may find it difficult to find standing — the ability to convince a court that they have grounds for filing a lawsuit because they are directly affected.

Republicans could use legislative language to try to prohibit agencies from using money to implement Obama’s initiatives, the aides acknowledged. “They could cook up some riders,” one adviser said, using the term for that kind of mechanism.

There are other ways to bring pressure to bear on the administration, the adviser added. But if Congress sends legislation the White House finds unacceptable, “the president would veto” it.

I support Obama on this. After all W Bush said they are here because they take jobs that Americans won't do like agriculture and the hotel industry as W tried to get them guest worker permits. ALEC big business can't have it both ways with cheap labor but no citizenship. Hold classes for these workers so they can pass the US citizenship test as they already contribute to the US economy.

But the real fight by the GOP is losing Texas and Florida to the Dems forever that will make their ALEC model bills policy defunct.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Wow. Assair calling out MBG. That's like Warren from "There's Something About Mary" calling out Corky from "Life Goes On."
 
I support this too. This is the Obama we've been wanting to see ever since it became clear that the republicans are never going to do anything to help this country.
 
In your face GOP on your ALEC model bill.

Obama unveils U.S. immigration reform, setting up fight with Republicans

Reuters By Steve Holland and Roberta Rampton
22 minutes ago


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama imposed the most sweeping immigration reform in a generation on Thursday, easing the threat of deportation for some 4.7 million undocumented immigrants and setting up a clash with Republicans who vow to fight his moves.

In a White House speech, Obama rejected Republican arguments that his decision to bypass Congress and take executive action was tantamount to amnesty for illegal immigrants.

It was his biggest use of executive actions in a year in which they have become his signature way of working around congressional gridlock.

It was his biggest use of executive actions in a year in which they have become his signature way of working around congressional gridlock.

"Amnesty is the immigration system we have today, millions of people who live here without paying their taxes or playing by the rules," he said.

Republicans pounced quickly, charging Obama had overstepped his constitutional powers a year after declaring he did not have the authority to act on his own.

In a video released before Obama's televised speech, House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner said: The president has said before that ‘he’s not king’ and he’s ‘not an emperor,’ but he sure is acting like one."

With 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, Obama's plan would let some 4.4 million who are parents of U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents remain in the country temporarily, without the threat of deportation.

Those undocumented residents could apply legally for jobs and join American society, but not vote or qualify for insurance under the president's healthcare law. The measure would apply to those who have been in the United States for at last five years.

An additional 270,000 people would be eligible for relief under the expansion of a 2012 move by Obama to stop deporting people brought illegally to the United States as children by their parents.

MIXED REACTIONS

The president, speaking two weeks after he and his Democrats were trounced in midterm elections, appeared confident and determined at the White House podium. Outside, pro-migrant demonstrators watched his speech on their smartphones and chanted support for him.

"Si se puede (Yes we can)," they shouted and sang the American national anthem.

Obama urged Republicans not to take steps against his plan that could lead to a government shutdown, raising the specter of a crisis that some conservatives would like to push but Republican leaders of Congress want to avoid.

Republicans were blamed for a shutdown over spending a year ago and are seeking ways to deny funding for his immigration steps without provoking a year-end budget crisis.

"Congress certainly shouldn't shut down our government again just because we disagree on this," Obama said.

Obama's moves have ramifications for the campaign to succeed him in 2016 by possibly solidifying Hispanic support behind Democrats. Republican candidates may tread carefully around the issue to avoid a Latino backlash. But polls show many Americans would prefer Obama not act alone.

Obama said trying to deport all 11 million people living in the country illegally was not realistic. His voice took on an empathetic tone as he described the struggle of illegal immigrants to avoid getting deported.

"I've seen the heartbreak and anxiety of children whose mothers might be taken away from them just because they didn't have the right papers," he said.

But Michael McCaul, Republican chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, warned: "We will see a wave of illegal immigration because of the president’s actions, and in no way is the Department of Homeland Security prepared to handle such a surge."

He pledged to "use every tool at my disposal to stop the president’s unconstitutional actions from being implemented.”

Lindolfo Carballo of Arlington, Virginia, who was among the demonstrators outside the White House, said: “It is personal for him (Obama), I think."

Nearby, a smaller group protested Obama’s action.

“This is illegal, what he’s doing,” said Manny Vega, a retired U.S. Marines sergeant from Fredericksburg, Virginia.

'PASS A BILL'

Obama said his actions were the kinds of steps taken by Republican and Democratic presidents for the past half century.

Angela Navarro, an undocumented Honduran-born immigrant with a deportation order, embraces her husba …
"And to those members of Congress who question my authority to make our immigration system work better, or question the wisdom of me acting where Congress has failed, I have one answer: Pass a bill," he said.

Administration officials described Obama's actions as the biggest shift in immigration policy since 1986 changes enacted during President Ronald Reagan's administration.

Some legal analysts said Congress could struggle to win a lawsuit to overturn the action since presidents have historically had broad authority to act on immigration.

"When an issue is mostly political, the judicial branch generally is not going to want to step in the middle of a dispute between the executive branch and the legislature," said Ted Ruthizer, an immigration attorney at Kramer Levin.

(Writing by Steve Holland; Additional reporting by Dayan Candappa, Susan Cornwell, Richard Cowan, Amanda Becker in Washington and Mica Rosenberg in New York; Editing by Tom Brown, Howard Goller and Peter Cooney)

Coming in January. GOP will strike it down but Obama has the veto pen. And with Hillary Clinton most likely winning in Nov 2016 the actions after that won't mean nothing.
 
I support this too. This is the Obama we've been wanting to see ever since it became clear that the republicans are never going to do anything to help this country.

Obama wanted to get this done in the last two years but backed off because of the Senators running for re-election.

Since it failed to keep the Dems in charge of the senate Obama is taking action on his own.

They now get drivers license and a social security number to work and vote. But are not eligible for Obama Care.
 
Democrats could've gotten immigration reform the first two years of Obama's presidency. The GOP could've gotten it done the last two years they were in the majority. Neither did. If the GOP is unhappy with Obama's EO, Boehner can simply call for a vote tomorrow and pass the bill that the Senate passed last year. It's that simple
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Democrats could've gotten immigration reform the first two years of Obama's presidency. The GOP could've gotten it done the last two years they were in the majority. Neither did. If the GOP is unhappy with Obama's EO, Boehner can simply call for a vote tomorrow and pass the bill that the Senate passed last year. It's that simple

Yeah, that's not how congress works. Bills have to originate in the House.
 
Democrats could've gotten immigration reform the first two years of Obama's presidency. The GOP could've gotten it done the last two years they were in the majority. Neither did. If the GOP is unhappy with Obama's EO, Boehner can simply call for a vote tomorrow and pass the bill that the Senate passed last year. It's that simple

The GOP of today doesn't understand that during the 80s with the Reagan administration interventions in Latin America with the communism vs capitalism fight has destroyed the economies there and the United States is now a place to survive for the children of that era. Plus they are exploited by big business for super cheap labor like in Asian nation that is forcing Latin people to try and work here to send money back to their families to survive.

Also the Oliver North/Ricky Freeway connection using them to send cocaine to the US ghettos for the introduction of crack in the Iran/Contras affair as we now have a farce policy on stopping it in those countries on the phony war on drugs.

Foreign Intervention in Latin America Today:

Times have changed, but foreign powers are still very active in meddling in the affairs of Latin America. France still owns a colony (French Guyana) on mainland South America and the United States and Britain still control islands in the Caribbean. The United States has sent forces to Haiti as recently as 2004 with the purpose of stabilizing the volatile nation after a contested election. Many people believed that the CIA was actively trying to undermine the government of Hugo Chávez in Venezuela: Chávez himself certainly thought so.

Latin Americans resent being bullied by foreign powers: it is their defiance of the United States that has made folk heroes out of Chávez and Castro. Unless Latin America gains considerable economic, political and military might, however, things do not look to change much in the short term.

North and Freeway:

 
Now they are peed at the GOP Gov convention.

ALEC will make a counter attempt with them on Friday asap on a new model view that will be vetoed by Obama.

Republican governors angered by media’s focus on Obama’s immigration action


The power of the presidential bully pulpit intruded on the governors’ victory lap in Florida

By Jon Ward
Yahoo News

BOCA RATON, Fla. — Governors always say that what happens in the states is more important than the goings-on in Washington.

But these days, Republicans really emphasize the point. There is a growing sense on the right that modern trends and attitudes are shifting decisively in favor of local solutions to problems rather than top-down, command-and-control systems.

“I think we are on the verge of a return to federalism like you have never seen it in this country,” Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Wednesday, referring to the concept that states should be independent from the federal government.

And as GOP governors gathered here this week at the annual Republican Governors Association conference, they were savoring an impressive showing in the midterm elections, when they won in deep-blue Democratic states like Massachusetts and Maryland, held off tough challenges in Florida and Wisconsin, and increased the number of Republican governors from 29 to 31.

So it was with a particular irritation that the governors reacted against the intrusion of an unwelcome reality into their ebullient victory lap: President Barack Obama’s use of his formidable power as the country’s chief executive to shape the nation’s political debate.

Obama’s planned speech Thursday night announcing new executive action to extend amnesty to millions of undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. was nothing more than “a cynical attempt to change the topic,” said Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal.

“He just lost a big election,” Jindal said. Jindal, who is one of several Republican governors leaning toward running for president in 2016, said Obama didn’t want the nation to focus on his economic record or on the implementation of Obamacare.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said the president is “purposely trying to distract the media and in turn the American people from the issues that people elected us to focus in on: a balanced budget, a lower and more effective tax burden, a way to bring more jobs back to America to put more Americans back to work.”

Walker, seated on an elevated stage in a room full of reporters, said that “you all in the media act like this just came up yesterday.”

“You have fallen into the trap that the president of the United States has done,” Walker said, “to talk about an issue that’s probably not in the top 10 of most voters in America.”

The day before, Jindal had confronted NBC’s "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd, who moderated a panel of governors, for spending half of the hourlong conversation asking questions about Obama’s coming action on immigration. Perry and Walker followed that up with criticisms of their own.

And on Thursday, former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, who moderated a panel of governors himself, took his own shot at Todd.

“Since none of you have anything to do with it, I’m not going to ask you any questions about immigration,” Barbour told the governors onstage as he began the event. “I’m not on MSNBC’s payroll,” he said, associating Todd with the more liberal MSNBC, on which he sometimes appears, rather than NBC News, Todd’s actual employer.

After the panel discussion, Barbour grew red in the face as he explained his frustration with the media’s focus on immigration. Most of the questions at two separate press conferences, in addition to the panel moderated by Todd, were about Obama’s coming executive order.

“We hold this conference to celebrate our governors but also to talk about the policies and the performance that these governors have produced. And anything that takes a lot of time away from that really is a waste of our time. All these people came down here not to talk about federal policy but to talk about state policy,” Barbour fumed. “And to the degree that you try to make the whole thing about immigration is irksome.”

Most of the governors’ energy was focused on denouncing the president for raining on their parade and spoiling their thunder. There was not much talk about how to deal with the reality that, even if states are the place where policy experiments are best conducted, the modern presidency still holds enormous power to control the national conversation.

But if, as Walker suggested, the president is setting a trap, it is in large part to provoke the GOP to rage against him and create a perception among the nation’s growing Latino population that Republicans are against them as an ethnic bloc.

“To take up all the time talking about that is taking your eye off why we’re here. That’s what y’all want to talk about,” Barbour said to reporters assembled around him. “If y’all want to talk about it, go somewhere else.”

There was some discussion at the meeting of how Republicans should deal with this risk.

“Everybody that I’ve talked to,” Jindal said, “folks that are here illegally, after the border is secured, the American people will deal with them compassionately and fairly.”

Jindal talked of a “need to widen the gate” for people to emigrate to the U.S. “We need to make it easier for people to come here legally,” he said, arguing that currently it is easier to come illegally than legally.

Walker made a pointed comment about the need for Republicans in Congress — who now control both the House and the Senate — to do more than just oppose Obama.

“Leadership works in the states if our friends in Washington, on our side of the aisle, go to Washington and lead and have a positive agenda and are not just about obstructing this president,” Walker said.

Yes Rick Perry, lets go back to the pre Civil War times.

Yes racist Scott Walker, your party doesn't give a fuck about Latin America and your party is stalling hoping to win in 2016. And the mid-terms was not a mandate win when the other side didn't show up to vote and GOP won't win in 2016. Compromise time, but to late. Obama did the right thing from the just say no obstruction for the commonwealth Congress as they held the House since 2010.
 

StanScratch

My Penis Is Dancing!
This executive action by President Obama is really disgusting. It's all about votes in the end. If the vast majority of those illegals were potential GOP voters, the illegals would have been rounded up and deported in 2009.

This will surely help Obama's 2016 election bid.
 
This will surely help Obama's 2016 election bid.
We all know that Obama is counting on non-US citizens votes to win a third term...


This executive action by President Obama is really disgusting. It's all about votes in the end. If the vast majority of those illegals were potential GOP voters, the illegals would have been rounded up and deported in 2009.
Since none of them are neither democratic nor republican voters, I don't understand how can it be about votes.

We're not talking about thugs and criminals, these people are not drug dealers nor ISIS terrorists. These people are workers, these people have kids who are US citizens or legal immigrants, these people have been in the country for at least 5 years, these people have no criminal record, these people pay their taxes.
These people have made great efforts to integrate into American society, to adopt the "american way of life", it would be unfair not to recognize these efforts and return to where they came from
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
I want to see all illegal aliens rounded up and sent back. It is not fair to those that came legally. That's the way my grandparents got here and most of your's too. It's a slap in their faces to grant amnesty which this order really is. Like a backdoor way. If you can sneak in then you can stay. Since this has been going on for decades, don't try to pin this on Obama or Bush's watch. Many in our congress have been there before either of them was elected. Some of them elected before you were born. So Obama is using his office to bypass congress, at least he's making a move. Like it or not, he made a decision that hundreds of others couldn't make for decades. I hope this action will close the holes in our boarders. He says they can't vote or be eligible for Obamacare till they get legal. That's fine with me IF they leave it at that. I also want a measured effort to actually hunt down and deport those now qualifying. This includes those that got the 5 year pass to stay and not follow up to citizenship.
 
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