Guess the date of Trump's End as POTUS

Guess when and how Trump's presidency is ending

  • Impeachment, by eastern 2017

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Impeachment, by summer 2017

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Impeachment before the end of 2017

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Impeachment, 2018

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Trump will step down, (Bad Business Development) 2017

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Trump will step down, (Bad Business Development) 2018

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • He will end his presidency 2020, the full term

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • He will end a second term

    Votes: 7 35.0%
  • He will step down, because Putin is the new combined leader

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • He will use the nuclear codes and end the world.

    Votes: 1 5.0%

  • Total voters
    20
Trump is not a product of the usual establishment political class, he is bold and straight forward. He does what he says. He is not very diplomatical that maybe but he does what is best for his country, that is much better than some half assed politicians that have the medias prostituted to them and ass kissing them.

Politicians are whores and Trump is just another spoiled rotten rich buffoon end of discussion......
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Just, wow, I find it incogitable that you have the intrepidity to venture on in this vein.

Up yours.
I dont post here to throw insults around.
I dont do that to you unless I'm being sarcastic on some level.

I am concerned about his war attitude because like I've said before if we continue on that road the economy will not get better, only worse.
He must focus on what he said he was going to focus on and boost the economy or be a puppet for the war profiteers.
There is no both.

That is 100% reality. Can't improve the economy and the standard of living if we're out their occupying and interfering with other countries for the benefit of the Central Bank, Wall St., The CIA, Israel, and every other element who profits off of it.
Why do you think the country has been in an continuous downward spiral for the past 20 years?
Maybe you just don't understand.
Maybe to you it would be more normal to see me focus on **** that doesn't matter.
The crap the media throws in our trough everyday for us to chomp on.


I have made my concerns about Trump at this point very clear with actual reasons and examples.
If you think I'm wrong then tell me why, or continue with the cheap shots in which I'll have to just start ignoring you completely.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
I'll even make it more clear if anybody gives a fuck.
What we are witnessing is not coincidence.
Nothing is coincidence, everything is planned.
So we have the MSM telling us about all the resistence against Trump.
They dont get into it much like who's behind most of this, they just give us the quick headline and clickbait.
Then you have the conservative side of the msm and most of the independent media talking about the same stuff, only they are
countering it by critisizing it.
Even Trump himself wont stop talking about it.
The mostly manufactured protests and overall resistence to Trump is the big story. It is what most people are focusing on.
It's all a distraction. Its really a psy-op like pretty much all information media is.
But most can't see this manipulation and they let it become the dominant issue. It isn't.

I won't bite. I won't get sucked into it because it doesn't amount to anything.
I'm going to focus instead on what the politicians and Trump and his people are actually saying and doing.
If everybody would just do that we might actually make some progress instead of going around in circles.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Up yours.
I dont post here to throw insults around.
I dont do that to you unless I'm being sarcastic on some level.

You routinely trumpet yourself as one of the elite few that "get's it", and everyone else is just, how did you put it... "confused, distorted, illogical, controlled, misguided, and eneducated." Up mine? You don't throw insults around? Again, just, wow. Fortunately, I don't feel particularly insulted, it would take a whole lot more intelligence than you possess to break my squelch, punchy, I'm merely entertained watching you do the best you can with your limited faculties.
 
Politicians are whores and Trump is just another spoiled rotten rich buffoon end of discussion......

Your friend hillary is a filthy swine and a lying bitch and her hubsand bill the blowjobber and the liar under oath is another fucking tool. When it comes to Obama, it is well known that he is a community organizer and divider and he did nothing positive for the USA despite terms filled with lies, hype and giberish bullshit.
 
So, you chose "trump does full one term"? Or do yu think he will be reelected?

I chose the one who is not trying to implement for any kind of socialism, the one who favors those who work hard and who protects his own country by closing its borders to illegals and any other criminals. I have chosen"He will end a second term"
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Your friend hillary is a filthy swine and a lying bitch and her hubsand bill the blowjobber and the liar under oath is another fucking tool. When it comes to Obama, it is well known that he is a community organizer and divider and he did nothing positive for the USA despite terms filled with lies, hype and giberish bullshit.

Say that in French. I would subscribe to your youtube channel, georges, if it were just you doing a bilingual reading of your posts.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
You got me pegged.
Note: I didn't say everybody else is "confused, distorted, illogical, controlled, misguided, and eneducated."
Only the majority.
My opinion is that Americans are the most propagandized and out of touch with reality people that probably ever existed.
So much so that they don't even believe their own eyes and ears anymore and are too lazy too look into anything beyond the headline.
I can have that opinion right?
I think I'm allowed. Pretty sure.
 
Your friend hillary is a filthy swine and a lying bitch and her hubsand bill the blowjobber and the liar under oath is another fucking tool. When it comes to Obama, it is well known that he is a community organizer and divider and he did nothing positive for the USA despite terms filled with lies, hype and giberish bullshit.

Not my 'friend'.
Have some **** it will mellow you out.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
You got me pegged.
Note: I didn't say everybody else is "confused, distorted, illogical, controlled, misguided, and eneducated."
Only the majority.
My opinion is that Americans are the most propagandized and out of touch with reality people that probably ever existed.
So much so that they don't even believe their own eyes and ears anymore and are too lazy too look into anything beyond the headline.
I can have that opinion right?
I think I'm allowed. Pretty sure.

Sure, your opinion can be that the majority of people, which in your estimation, I'm sure, includes everyone that regularly posts on this forum, are stupid, confused, distorted, illogical, controlled, misguided, and eneducated (sic). Nothing about that is meant to be an insult, right? I'm through fucking with you, at least for a while, carry on.
 

ApolloBalboa

Was King of the Board for a Day
When I see who is in the riots against Trump , I am not astonished of your answer. The same people that want to leech off the health care system, social security, social housing , etc, etc. I will remember you one sentence from the movie ******* them softly: "Don't make me laugh. I'm living in America, and in America, you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business."

You may see who's in the riots, but I doubt you'll pick me out. Know why? I'm not there.

Your tired diatribe regarding people who suck the life out of America is almost as tired as your "I'm older, so I know better than you" schtick. America's not a business, it's a country, and quote whatever movie you want, it doesn't change that, and neither does electing a businessman as president. If you believe that inexperience in one profession translates to experience in another, I expect that when France has its next elections that you write in your local dogcatcher; according to your logic he'll be able to keep you safe and secure, after all he's used to keeping undesirables in cages.
 

ApolloBalboa

Was King of the Board for a Day
So far, the only thing he has tried to do is try to get a handle on who enters this country.

Where I live that IS best for the country.

YMMV

I'll respectfully disagree with you on that account; I may not share your views or opinions, but his policies directly affect you the same as they do me. I don't take kindly to a foreigner telling me that he knows better than I do what's best for my country.

Yes, I'm aware that that argument can apply for you or animus or anybody with Johan, but I don't triumph Johan as a paragon of American values and fall in line with everything he says, so I don't consider myself a hypocrite.
 
I don't take kindly to a foreigner telling me that he knows better than I do what's best for my country.

I don't take kindly to a foreigner who believes it's their right to enter the United States and if prevented to do so by the full legal authority of the President, they're outraged and Chuck Schumer starts the waterworks (give that man an Oscar). Because fuck the security concerns of the actual citizens of the United States; it's more important that foreigners aren't offended.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Sure, your opinion can be that the majority of people, which in your estimation, I'm sure, includes everyone that regularly posts on this forum, are stupid, confused, distorted, illogical, controlled, misguided, and eneducated (sic). Nothing about that is meant to be an insult, right? I'm through fucking with you, at least for a while, carry on.

I really don't mean that as an insult. Its being critical sure. It can easily be taken as insulting like if I tell a 300lb woman she should try to lose weight. But I feel it is the truth.
I don't claim to know it all because I don't.
I do think I am probably about the only one here who steps back to see the big picture about many things.
Too many people in general focus on these little things that the MSM throws at them as distractions.
I try to show people that they should avoid those traps.

Lets take one of the big issues, "TERRORISM"
We've been told that Al-Qaeueaueuaeauda is coming to get us. We've been and are still being told ISIS is coming to get us.
"They mean us harm".
We are being told now that "Iran is the biggest state sponser of terrorism in the world" which is a total lie.
All the while the Israel GOV is telling us to fight them. Seems every time Israel gives an order the US obeys immediately and without even a reward.

So ISIS is gonna get us. ISIS means to do us harm. ISIS is behind Orlando, Neice, Istanbul and all the other so called ****** attacks.
But if anybody just takes a little time, steps back, looks at the big picture, they will clearly see based on evidence that the USA is the main funder of Al-Queaeuaeda and ISIS or whatever name they are using today.
And if that is the case, which it is, then everything else is based on a lie.

Example: The USA and NATO dropped bombs on the civilians population of Libya everyday for months.
White phosphorous, so much depleted uranium that half the babies born today die the first day.
They bombed that country into the stone age. Destroyed the water supply, the energy supply, ****** a few hundred thousand civilians without one US soldier on the ground.
This is your country under Obama, Clinton, and Mccain.
Then they sent in the helecopters and for a few days shot every living thing in sight, mostly civilians again.
The very same day. The SAME DAY the air attacks stopped 2-3 hundreds thousand bearded mercenaries rolled into Libya with vehicles and armed to the teeth and continued the slaughter. They hacked up all the black people they could get. ***** and slaughtered women and ******** by the 10's of thousands. Established a Central bank with 1 Billion dollars in it immediately.
There were no bearded muslims in Libya prior to this.
So where did they come from? Look at a world map. How did all these mercenaries and equipment get there immediatley?
How could they possibly have gotten there so quickly after the bombings stopped?
Why did the USA just let it happen? They ****** the country for months then let it get taken over immediately by Al-Qeauaeuada?
Libya had tons and tons of gold and silver,billions in cash and hard assets, a military with plenty of arms, and unlimited valuable resources like oil. A few trillion dollars of assetts just disappeared.
Did the USA just let all this fall into the hands of Al-Qaeueauada?
It doesn't take much to come to the obvious conclusion the they were all working together.

But yet the majority of Americans believe that ISIS is a threat and they are coming for us.
And Trump is continuing to sell that old lie.
People believe its true because they are confused, distorted, illogical, controlled, misguided, and eneducated
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
Is it your belief that for decades, these groups are being funded by the same people that fund their opposition? Yes or no without going into a full dissertation or examples. We've read enough of them.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
I really don't mean that as an insult. Its being critical sure. It can easily be taken as insulting like if I tell a 300lb woman she should try to lose weight. But I feel it is the truth.
I don't claim to know it all because I don't.
I do think I am probably about the only one here who steps back to see the big picture about many things.
Too many people in general focus on these little things that the MSM throws at them as distractions.
I try to show people that they should avoid those traps.

Just as pointing out that your brain is obviously damaged from huffing too much paint, glue, or some other aerosol ********** isn't an insult, just a criticism and pointing out of an obvious fact. Here's some hints, if you're truly interested in fact finding; question everything especially what you think you know, stop making assumptions about things you don't know, never base your beliefs on feelings, and swap those beliefs for truths, and you will be off to a good start. You aren't qualified to show anyone anything, we all have the right to make fools of ourselves, some are simply better at it than others. But I digress, I said I was through fucking with you for a while and I meant it.
 

ApolloBalboa

Was King of the Board for a Day
I don't take kindly to a foreigner who believes it's their right to enter the United States and if prevented to do so by the full legal authority of the President, they're outraged and Chuck Schumer starts the waterworks (give that man an Oscar). Because fuck the security concerns of the actual citizens of the United States; it's more important that foreigners aren't offended.

There can be a compromise between allowing people the right to enter the United States and disregarding those basic rights; I'm all for trying to find it, but Trump is all for disregarding (dare I say trampling over?) it and adding more fuel to the fire that he proclaims he'll put out. Do I care if they like us or not? Mildly. Am I concerned that he's giving people more reasons to try and ****** us because he's willing to pigeonhole an entire religion/group of people, members of which some of you say are extremists and need little to no provocation to fight? Yes.

Trump has no nuance, paints in broad strokes, and sees things in terms of black and white only. To be that definitive, that unwavering, and (most importantly) to never back down, even when it's wise to puts everyone in danger because of his need to appear steadfast; that's not being strong, that's being obtuse. He's the Ryan Lochte of politics, being held up and saying "Jyeah, take your best shot brah." The only problem is, if the gunman shoots, he doesn't hit Trump, he hits anyone and everyone else.
 
There can be a compromise between allowing people the right to enter the United States and disregarding those basic rights; I'm all for trying to find it, but Trump is all for disregarding (dare I say trampling over?) it and adding more fuel to the fire that he proclaims he'll put out. Do I care if they like us or not? Mildly. Am I concerned that he's giving people more reasons to try and ****** us because he's willing to pigeonhole an entire religion/group of people, members of which some of you say are extremists and need little to no provocation to fight? Yes.

Trump has no nuance, paints in broad strokes, and sees things in terms of black and white only. To be that definitive, that unwavering, and (most importantly) to never back down, even when it's wise to puts everyone in danger because of his need to appear steadfast; that's not being strong, that's being obtuse. He's the Ryan Lochte of politics, being held up and saying "Jyeah, take your best shot brah." The only problem is, if the gunman shoots, he doesn't hit Trump, he hits anyone and everyone else.
We have enough fucking people here now.
There is very little interest in assimilation anymore. And once they get here then the process begins to bring 6 ******** an aunt and dear old ***.

There was a time when I saw a Muslim on the street and I was indifferent to them. Live and let live.. but something changed, they have different rules for them..prayer mats and prayer rooms in places of business..in government offices.

Their religion is diametrically opposed to mine. Fine, but their goal is to convert the whole world to Islam, and by ******** and ***** if necessary.

They are importing their culture and lifestyle upon us. When Greeks , Italians, Latins ,Europeans came here they brought a common faith with them. And when we had other non Christian religions emigrate here at least they weren't violent.

Islam would be perfectly happy taking us all back to the 7th century.

We went from 1921 until 1965 without allowing people to come here at will. We made exceptions for war brides and a few others.

Nobody has a right to just come here. And our president damn sure has the right to say who and who doesn't come here. We can't sustain these levels of over 1-2 million a year. We just fucking can't.

As for visas, I posted this on another thread..

A visa only allows foreign nationals to present themselves to a U.S. immigration officer/official. It does not entitle or guarantee entry into the United States.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Is it your belief that for decades, these groups are being funded by the same people that fund their opposition? Yes or no without going into a full dissertation or examples. We've read enough of them.

Thank you for asking bob.
Thats a good sign.
Yes. It is my belief , in fact I have no doubt at all that the United States is the major source of funding in every way for all the "****** groups" (which are mercenary armies) that all stem from the Muslim Brotherhood. All Queauaeuada, ISIS, or whatever they call themselves this week.
They are all branches of the Muslim brotherhood.
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Israel are involved in funding and arming them also.
These are shadow governments within each of these countries. In other words the entire US GOV, every Prince or Sheik of Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and every Israeli politician are not directly involved or involved at all. Its the Deep State of these countries who are responsible.
They control all this "behind the curtain" and they are so powerful that no politician dare oppose them.

So Yes. ALL the ****** groups are funded and armed and take orders from the USA. They are an enemy created and used to achieve several things.
1- An excuse for non stop wars and invasions for people involved to rake in Trillions of dollars every year and all the funding for "The War on ******".
2- To be used as proxy armies by the US and Nato to occupy countries they have bombed into the stone age and commit horrible atrocities that the US and UN can not do.
2a- An armed ***** to destroy any country not on board with the Central banks or the petrodollar. They are then used to keep these countries destabilized and their new US puppet leaders in charge an to oppress any actions of the people to oppose their new governments.
3- A means to create hundreds of millions of "Refugees" to migrate to Europe and destabilize those countries as well. This is for the Globalists like Soros.
4- For Israel. More precisely the fake jew Zionists who control the Israeli Gov. These people are war criminals and terrorists. The Israeli GOV has always been controlled by the same since day 1. Most countries surrounding Israel have been destroyed with the exception of Syria and Iran. This is why Netanyahoo is always front and center demanding the US invade or punish these countries.

Thats as short as I could put it.
And unless anyone can accept this reality everything else they believe is based on a lie.
 

ApolloBalboa

Was King of the Board for a Day
We have enough fucking people here now.
There is very little interest in assimilation anymore. And once they get here then the process begins to bring 6 ******** an aunt and dear old ***.

There was a time when I saw a Muslim on the street and I was indifferent to them. Live and let live.. but something changed, they have different rules for them..prayer mats and prayer rooms in places of business..in government offices.

Their religion is diametrically opposed to mine. Fine, but their goal is to convert the whole world to Islam, and by ******** and ***** if necessary.

They are importing their culture and lifestyle upon us. When Greeks , Italians, Latins ,Europeans came here they brought a common faith with them. And when we had other non Christian religions emigrate here at least they weren't violent.

Islam would be perfectly happy taking us all back to the 7th century.

We went from 1921 until 1965 without allowing people to come here at will. We made exceptions for war brides and a few others.

Nobody has a right to just come here. And our president damn sure has the right to say who and who doesn't come here. We can't sustain these levels of over 1-2 million a year. We just fucking can't.

As for visas, I posted this on another thread..

A visa only allows foreign nationals to present themselves to a U.S. immigration officer/official. It does not entitle or guarantee entry into the United States.

I agree with you that we have enough people, but I don't think that totalitarianism is the way of dealing with things, and that's pretty much what's being expressed from the Oval Office right now.

Assimilation is a whole different ball of wax; I'm all for people needing to learn English if they expect to remain here (the same as is required for citizenship in other countries), but outside of that I have no issues with people carrying over their faiths, cultures, etc. If you want complete assimilation here you're going to have to get rid of essentially all but one group of people, and whether that criteria revolves around race, religion, sexuality, or anything else is up to you, but good luck with that. If Jews can live here and aren't expected to give in to Christian values, if homosexuals can live here and don't have to stop being who they are to stay here, why shouldn't that logic apply to anyone who just comes off the boat to live here?

I am not familiar with the goal of Islam so I can't comment on or refute your statement that their goal is to convert by peaceful means or *****, but you're grouping in people for whom that religion is sacred, and they don't have any intention of pushing it upon anyone. Why is it so abhorred to think that Islam might spread, but it's not a big deal if people want to see more Catholicism in government? I'm not Catholic, they don't apply to me; I wouldn't have a problem if the people that respected them followed them (and I don't), but I don't want to hear anybody in politics talking about how we need to bring back good Christian values for everyone, no thank you.

If you're talking about importing lifestyle and culture upon ********* peoples, take a good look at history. How much of that has been done over the centuries, for better or worse, because people wanted it or not? Christian values were imposed upon Native Americans by pilgrims, and upon other cultures by missionaries (who still do that!); the American Reform movement seeks out non-Jewish spouses and seeks to convert them; ISKCON has served to convert many to Hinduism. Why do you have an issue solely with one religion doing what many others are, and if your reasoning is that it's precipitated by ********, then your issue is with those who choose to follow their religion to the letter. But wait! There are also Christians, Jews, Hindus, and many others who do that! So your issue can't be with them doing exactly what their good book says, because then that logic would have to apply to anyone and everyone who does the same. That leaves only the element of ********, which you can't tie to people who practice as they want to without engaging in it. That leaves the fringe element, no one else.

Overall, I agree with you; it's not an unalienable right to come here. We (as a people) couldn't sustain it, and our country couldn't sustain it, but there's a better way to deal with this problem than with an open door policy (which I feel that Obama had) and a closed door policy (which Trump is trying to push through). Our president has the right to change things, but he can't do so by himself, that's what the other two branches of government are for. Our current president doesn't seem to realize that (or if he does, doesn't respect it) and throws a fit when he discovers that his word isn't absolute law. If your fear is that absolute law is bad (at least when it comes to religion), see how it's now metastasized from the printed word (the Bible, Torah, and even the Quran) to the bully pulpit.
 
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