50-Cent Tax Hike on Every Gallon of Gas.
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what an idiot.
Near-catastrophic prices for gas already, and this dumass wants to raise the price even more.
I am allergic to the word tax.
Near-catastrophic prices for gas already, and this dumass wants to raise the price even more.
I am allergic to the word tax.
What other type of car can you drive if you are a big dude?
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
A nice luxury car would be nice, or an Impala.
Chevy Caprice, Impala, Monte Carlo, Cadillac....:hatsoff:
those cars are still pretty small. I don't like paying for the extra gas, but for someone who drives as much as I do, I prefer to be more comfortable and safer in a SUV than a midsize sedan. Plus I need the extra cargo room.
There are plenty reasons for someone to drive an SUV in the city. Now if there was an adequate public transit system where I live, then I would not drive. But as it is. I need the SUV.
There are plenty reasons for someone to drive an SUV in the city. Now if there was an adequate public transit system where I live, then I would not drive. But as it is. I need the SUV.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
I was going to say that is a good reason to have an SUV. (Business purposes)
I mostly see small women with cell phones in their hands driving them.
Only 50% ? We pay a whole lot more than that already.And it hasn't made diddly squit difference to sales so the environmental argument is bust.SUVs have been hammered in our latest Budget.But they still exist;if you exchange one for a smaller car somebody else is going to buy it and use it! Again the environmental reason fails.
Got to tank up today with diesel at about £1.14 a litre which is $8.55 per US gallon.And you say US prices are catastrophic!
Got to tank up today with diesel at about £1.14 a litre which is $8.55 per US gallon.And you say US prices are catastrophic!
They are catastrophic. For a country with our natural resources and technological resources, you'd think one thing we'd be able to control would be energy and fuel prices. Not so.
And when you consider how much of each gallon of gasoline goes to various taxes already, I think this knob senator should go fuck himself. We don't need any more taxes on anything. These fucking leeches get enough of our money already.
H
And when you consider how much of each gallon of gasoline goes to various taxes already, I think this knob senator should go fuck himself. We don't need any more taxes on anything. These fucking leeches get enough of our money already.
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Even with full control over output it's difficult to control prices.Having to buy from abroad it's almost impossible.
You could be self sufficient in energy but it would cost you even more than present prices which although historically high are in fact still lower than alternatives.South Africa when under sanctions produced oil from coal , it can be done (Germany did the same in WW2) but it costs a lot more than buying oil on the open market.
The higher oil prices get the more attractive and possible the alternatives become.It took the 1973 oil price hike to make North Sea oil worth extracting.
Petra
Cult Mother and Simpering Cunt
If the US goverment really, really wants to cut down America's use of fuel they need to come up with alternatives. Either affordable alternate fuel or put decent public transportation in place. All adding more taxes ontop of the existing taxes will do is make people work even more to be able to continue getting to work.
Most European countries, Canada and China already charge well over $6-$10.00 per gallon and they pay from 40%-45% of tax on a gallon of gas.
That amounts to more than $2.50-$3.50 tax per gallon. What is 50 cents ? LOL !!!!
:1orglaughOnly United States enjoy such cheap gas. But wait, if you guys in Pennsylvannia votes for HER HIGHEST QUEEN HRC HILLARY, the gas price will go up to eventually $6-8.00 relatively the same as in EU and Canada to fund the universal health care and so many other social programs for the poor.
I agree Obama screwed up on his relationship with his spiritual minister. Obama should denounce him and leave the church and may be save your ass for 1-2 bucks less if Obama's universal health plan is enacted (if he is elected as the President)
The other major problem is China is buying a lot of petro (gas) in open market, competing directly with EU and USA for natural resources. This also drive the price up and the most important thing is the refinery companies (after Katrina, the Texan Bush extended families see no criminal charges to raise the price of refinery and use Katrina as an excuse, so the price of gas keep going up.)
Don't forget, United States produces roughly 1/3 of domestic consumption of oil, roughly 1/3 come from Canada and Mexico, directly through underground oil pipelines, and the rest from Middle East and other OPEC countries. :wave: :nanner:
The rise in gas price only benefits Russia, Iran, Saudia Arabia, OPEC countires, but the biggest profit goes to Russia.
Keep on trucking, there will be no USA in less than 50-75 years ! :fight:
You know what?
If we cut down our military adventurism, we'd save a shit-load and a half of gas.
And more
Do you know the things that use JP5?
Abrams tanks and fighter planes. Helicopters.
The Abrams gives 0.6 miles to the gallon (IIRC).
The F/A 18 with 14,500 lbs of JP5 needs to be refueled every 2 hours (it's combat radius is less than 1000 miles IIRC).
Not to mention all the ships, oilers, tankers, Hummers, APCs... I could go on and on.
All running around in the fucking desert. And in 100s of places around the fucking world.
Where they got no business being.
Stop that bull shit and see how much cash we save...
If we cut down our military adventurism, we'd save a shit-load and a half of gas.
And more
Do you know the things that use JP5?
Abrams tanks and fighter planes. Helicopters.
The Abrams gives 0.6 miles to the gallon (IIRC).
The F/A 18 with 14,500 lbs of JP5 needs to be refueled every 2 hours (it's combat radius is less than 1000 miles IIRC).
Not to mention all the ships, oilers, tankers, Hummers, APCs... I could go on and on.
All running around in the fucking desert. And in 100s of places around the fucking world.
Where they got no business being.
Stop that bull shit and see how much cash we save...
While obvioulsy the tax would be a hardship on many it is as the congressman says.A majority think we should do something about the Co2 emmisions coming mostly from cars that are creating global climate change.But hardly anybody wants to pay to do that,shocking isn't it.
If you look at the europeans who have much higher taxes on gas ,their consumption rate is about 1/2 per person what the US is.This is just fundamental economics want to reduce/discourage something,then taxing it is a way to do that.Taxing it has the benefit of reducing demand and making monies available to improve mass transit,invest in alternatives etc.
Just think if we had done things years ago like higher taxes on gas ,we could have depressed demand and developed alternatives.Now we got the higher prices anyway,and much higher ones are probably coming.But America is still looking for some easy painless way to fix things and kid ourselves that some miracle of technology will save us from making tough choices and sacrifices.There was a post here not to long ago about declaring war on oil,let me remind people that most real serious wars(unlike the current ones) involve sacrifice by all.The last one the US was in was WW2 where we had rationing of gas and other resources to help in the war effort,it will take that kind of commitment again to make a real difference IMO.But don't hold your breath.
I think that is a good point.I heard that the defense dept is the largest single entity in the country in its consumption of oil.And that 1/2 of all they use was just to transport everything to there final destinations.
PS: On John Dingle the congressman from MI who proposed this.He is the longest sitting congressman in the house having been 1st elected to his seat in 1955.I doubt he thinks his seat is in danger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dingell
As a fan of SOME taxes...I have to say this tax is a mistake. I don't see the corporate leadership or interest from Big Oil or Big Auto to actually bring new tech or new fuel to the marketplace. The pressure belongs squarely on the shoulders of Corporate America to find solutions out of these messes they created.
As Roughneck pointed out...if we stop warmongering..we'll save oil (remember the last scene from "Battle of the Bulge"--the German War Machine simply ran out out of oil)
A larger and greater problem we face which nobody is talking about is the Trucking Industry. As someone who has travelled across our country by car I've seen the pollution damage done by Semi-trucks. These stinky, inefficient reckless behemoths are ruining our air at a greater rate then the auto. There must be a new solution to the sem-truck business or whatever we do for domestic cars is meaningless basically...
This is not a problem that Americans can solve on our own as individual consumers or households. This problem is a corporate problem and we need to put pressure on the companies to get off their fat, lazy asses and ACTUALLY TAKE GREEN TECH SERIOUSLY.....
As Roughneck pointed out...if we stop warmongering..we'll save oil (remember the last scene from "Battle of the Bulge"--the German War Machine simply ran out out of oil)
A larger and greater problem we face which nobody is talking about is the Trucking Industry. As someone who has travelled across our country by car I've seen the pollution damage done by Semi-trucks. These stinky, inefficient reckless behemoths are ruining our air at a greater rate then the auto. There must be a new solution to the sem-truck business or whatever we do for domestic cars is meaningless basically...
This is not a problem that Americans can solve on our own as individual consumers or households. This problem is a corporate problem and we need to put pressure on the companies to get off their fat, lazy asses and ACTUALLY TAKE GREEN TECH SERIOUSLY.....
It is not fair to Europe's rate of oil consumption to that of the U.S. because Europe is much more densely populated than the U.S. People living closer together means that there is shorter distances to travel which means that there is less oil needed to travel those shorter distances.
To the poster that said we need to sacrifice a lot (like the way wars need sacrifice) in order to become less dependent on oil, I would have to agree. It will take a lot of sacrifice, but I don't think the people should be positioned into a corner where they have to choose to either ride a bus or fill up their tanks, through higher taxes. What should happen is that the taxes that we pay to government should be spent at home, in the development of new energy technologies rather than abroad in strengthening our "empire."
The sacrifice that is needed is for the United States to withdrawl from its bases around the world and its aggressive approach in "settling" disputes in other countries.
To the poster that said we need to sacrifice a lot (like the way wars need sacrifice) in order to become less dependent on oil, I would have to agree. It will take a lot of sacrifice, but I don't think the people should be positioned into a corner where they have to choose to either ride a bus or fill up their tanks, through higher taxes. What should happen is that the taxes that we pay to government should be spent at home, in the development of new energy technologies rather than abroad in strengthening our "empire."
The sacrifice that is needed is for the United States to withdrawl from its bases around the world and its aggressive approach in "settling" disputes in other countries.
