You know how stupid that comment sounds?? That's like saying blacks are labeled "nigg**s" cause that's what they are.
Racism in Porn
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Racism in Porn is just a political argument that far too many people like to leverage over others to feel better about themselves.
The real crime is what an alleged racist does to him/herself, and how people won't stop to help them move beyond it without getting upset.
If we all stopped to consider our backgrounds, our upbringing and stopped to relate that to everyone else, understanding would result in a -- quite literally -- "world of difference."
The real crime is what an alleged racist does to him/herself, and how people won't stop to help them move beyond it without getting upset.
If we all stopped to consider our backgrounds, our upbringing and stopped to relate that to everyone else, understanding would result in a -- quite literally -- "world of difference."
Value judgement, you just made one ...
You've valuated "interracial" as offensive as "******," which means someone else can now do the same.
And that's how it starts, from misunderstanding to labeling, instead of stopping to understand someone's point.
As a white male, I was professionally discriminated against because I was not Hispanic at a company when I graduated from college after working there 3 years.
Instead of "making a big deal" about it, I fucked them by moving on and taking a much better job with one of their competitors.
I didn't lower myself to their level, I felt sorry for them, and would later return to consult at a rate 10x as much.
Value judgement, you just made one.
You've valuated "interracial" as offensive as "******," which means someone else can now do the same.
And that's how it starts, from misunderstanding to labeling, instead of stopping to understand someone's point.
As a white male, I was professionally discriminated against because I was not Hispanic at a company when I graduated from college after working there 3 years.
Instead of "making a big deal" about it, I fucked them by moving on and taking a much better job with one of their competitors.
I didn't lower myself to their level, I felt sorry for them, and would later return to consult at a rate 10x as much.
Re: Value judgement, you just made one ...
Don't misunderstand me... I'm not trying to say that the term "interracial" is as equally offensive as the term "******". I'm fully aware of the point he was "trying" to make. I was simply using an analogical example to make my point. "Interracial" is a term used to described something that is not. So to say it is because it is, is just ignorance. It's like saying a ****** is a ******, simply because it is what it is. The point is that neither word should be used to describe either thing.
Be that as it may... the truth is that it does exist in full *****, despite the many people that deny its existence in the industry to begin with.
ChefChiTown
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How so? Please explain.You do realize that what you just said makes you a hypocrite, don't you?
ChefChiTown
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You said this...
...in response to me saying that porn scenes are called interracial because that's what they are. But, didn't you just use the term BLACKS? :dunno: If you don't like labels, then don't use them yourself.
Personally, I think people get worked up over nothing a lot of the times when it comes to so-called racism. It's almost like people are purposely looking for a reason to cry racism and it doesn't make sense to me. (No, I'm not saying racism doesn't exist).
I am white, you are black. There is nothing wrong with saying that. They are descriptive labels, not racist ones. If a white guy mugged you and took your wallet, what is your answer going to be when the police ask you what color his skin was? Are you going to say "Why does that matter officer? We're all people." No. You're going to say that a white guy did it.
FYI - I personally believe there's a huge difference between calling a porn scene interracial and calling a black person a ******. Huuuuuge difference.
And what term do YOU use to describe black Americans?? There is no negative connotation associated with using the term black. I think most people would agree that it's an accepted ethnicity that you can find on most surveys, applications, etc. You'd have a hard time trying to claim it as negative or "racial labeling".
Dude, the term "interracial" is a racist label by itself. This is what you still fail to get, but I'll explain it again below.
There's a difference in the connotation and vulgarity of the words... but that's not the issue here. You basically stated that interracial is interracial, because that's what it is... and it is what it is. But what you failed to realize is that the term "interracial" is very much a label (and it IS a racist/derogatory one) just as the term "******" is very much a label. Yes, I know that they are not equal in vulgarity, but again... that's not the issue. You wouldn't call a ***** interracial without it being taken negatively. The fact that you can't realize that the term interracial is as much of a label as ****** is, tells a lot. That's the point I'm trying to make. If you could see past the own labels that you spout out, You Might be able to realize that some of your "labels" do have derogatory and/or racial connotations behind them. And by continuing to justify the use of these labels through ignorance, by saying things like "interracial... it is what it is... etc.", you're only contributing to the problem.
Fox,You do make some good and admirable points.However the claim that race is just a myth determined only by skin color of the Nordic,African,Asian members of the same ONE race seems innacurate to Me.Different Peoples have other racial features other than just skin color.Bone structure and facial features are quite different among African/Asian/European etc.people.-Eye shape and color,nose shape,hair texture differences,etc.etc.--This honestly cannot be explained by whose ancesters lived in a warmer or colder climate.The differences in people are more than just skin color as any archeologist or forensic scientist will confirm.-No big deal,Fox-Just that Your theory that race is determined only by the sun exposure of our ancestors seems quite incorrect to Me,considering all the other differences in bone structure and other appearance.--But:-I do consider US ALL the Human Race.That's good enough for Me.I wouldn't want everyone to look the same.What a boring world it would be.-Peace,Sammy
Two points I would like to make.
1. The earliest fossils of humans are to be found on the african continent so I think it is clear that is where the 1st humans developed and all the rest are from those origins.
2. And as far as racism goes I think everyone has been affected by racism and harbors some of it,you would have to be a miracle to have been raised almost anywhere and not have been afflicted by the racism that permeates most cultures and I do not beleive in miracles.That said the problem is not that we are racists to some degree its that we do not recognize it enough and strive to overcome the legacy of it and work to lessen the harm it does to all of us.Using the US as an example since its the only country I have lived in there is no doubt about it's existence,but I doubt it is any different in other places that have similar ethnic situations.All this talk about not wanting to have sex with someone of another race based on their race is not racist is ridculous, of course it is.The difference to me is I don't think those kind of attitudes can or should be forcibly changed,but thinks like discrimination in housing ,jobs,justice can be and should be agressively challenged IMO.
1. The earliest fossils of humans are to be found on the african continent so I think it is clear that is where the 1st humans developed and all the rest are from those origins.
2. And as far as racism goes I think everyone has been affected by racism and harbors some of it,you would have to be a miracle to have been raised almost anywhere and not have been afflicted by the racism that permeates most cultures and I do not beleive in miracles.That said the problem is not that we are racists to some degree its that we do not recognize it enough and strive to overcome the legacy of it and work to lessen the harm it does to all of us.Using the US as an example since its the only country I have lived in there is no doubt about it's existence,but I doubt it is any different in other places that have similar ethnic situations.All this talk about not wanting to have sex with someone of another race based on their race is not racist is ridculous, of course it is.The difference to me is I don't think those kind of attitudes can or should be forcibly changed,but thinks like discrimination in housing ,jobs,justice can be and should be agressively challenged IMO.
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I'm just impressed that you all are having a conversation about race like intelligent human beings, without resorting to personal attacks. This has to be a first in the history of forum conversations.:glugglug:
Is it just racist in regards to pr0n, or what about its use in mainstream tv and movies?
I don't care about racism in porn to me if it turns me on I don't care...And this is probably reverse racism or something but I'm a BLACK MAN who gets turned on seeing a black woman eating out a white woman it's so sexy too me I love seeing white women in porn movies being pleasured & in complete control over black women in love scenes together that's all I buy & look for in porn movies & I really get turned on seeing a guy black or white in a 3some with a black woman & a white woman & it's so hot & erotic to see the black woman doing (P2M or A2M) out of a white woman, and I'm really a BLACK MAN who gets so excited seeing white women being pleasured & to me it's a little bit of racism everywhere but in porn I really don't care & I kinda get turned on by it in porn.
I don't think it matters under what medium you use such terms. They all have racial/negative connotations to them.
It's not "all" due to sun exposure. Case in point... When you live in places where it can be very bright and windy (like the north pole, parts of Asia), the eyes adapt over time to become a trait we identify as being associated with most Eskimos and Asians today.
No- no it's not. Interracial merely means, by definition, "Between races or comprised of more than one race".
How is that racist, again?
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