Antifa

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I have no opinion
Yes.

The most interesting people in this whole debate are the ones who say they're anti-anti fascism but they're not fascists themselves, which makes them fascism centrists, and that largely sums up just how stupid political discourse is these days.
At last some one who read the question!

This talks about Italian Fascism economic and otherwise. See what you think:

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/economic-leadership-secrets-benito-mussolini

To me some sounds like the Donald and the Trumpista party and some like others .
 
Yeah, just like Stalin happens to be on the right side of History 'cause he want on the opposite side from Hitler, right ?

Before he was ******, Al-Baghdadi (leader of Daech) used to be on the opposite side from Trump. Would you say he was on the right side of History ?
No, radical islamist leaders/terrorists are always on the wrong side of the history. This is why they end up dead, this is what happened to Qassam Soleimani.
 

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

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On a kind of related question to the original one I was wondering about Right Wing Militias(for lack of a better term) Proud Boys etc. What is the purpose of your all (apparently 200 or so yesterday) getting together Carrying your guns and wearing your camo when the BLM and other have a protest. I see the stated purpose to protect property and defend against Antifa(and others apparently). I also see you gathering to whine about loss of your freedoms by protesting(protesting? I thought you were against that but i digress) masks and shutdowns. Anti *** control of any sort, etc. But my question is this; If you never use the guns, never even fire warning shots, why are you there? Intimidation? Threats? Hell if everyone thinks you aren't gonna do anything You Might as well get chairs and sodas and sit down. And one last thing, why when you are marching and packing are many of you wearing masks, and then later protesting the mandatory wearing of masks. I don't understand the inconsistency. I have said before that I am against the rioting in the street **** by anyone. And destruction of property and loss of lives as well. I am in the middle again as the old song says. Neither Libtard nor Trumpista am I. So those of you who do this, what are you trying to accomplish?
 
Bumping this back up above the bullshit flood for you bubb. I have some theories, but waiting to see if any boys here are proud enough to take it on.
 

gmase

It's a new dawn.
Well Mongo to this point, except for you and me, Crickets.
It is difficult to admit that intimidation is a goal. They would rather stay quiet than come out.

Great post.
 
Yeah, intimidation is there for sure, but if you think about the why, it becomes a bit darker. The entire republican world view is built on kicking down, blaming others, whether it's blacks, immigrants, anyone slightly to the left on the political spectrum.

Think about it. In order to so rabidly support taking away social safety nets, health care, and basic human rights from entire demographics, you need to believe that they are less deserving, less human. The only way they can hold onto these beliefs is by convincing themselves that everyone gets the same opportunities in life, and that the poor, and the sick, and those with different lifestyles, are only that way because they're lazy, or they've made bad choices. If they were just smarter and harder working they would have gone to university and got good jobs and been upper middle class and they'd have nothing to complain about.

If the BLM movement is allowed to be heard, it could lead to a global admission that their concerns are valid, and that's a big step towards humanizing one of their favorite scapegoats. And from there it's a slippery slope to human decency, and once a sickness like that takes hold, it's the end of the modern republican party.
 

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I have no opinion
Yeah, intimidation is there for sure, but if you think about the why, it becomes a bit darker. The entire republican world view is built on kicking down, blaming others, whether it's blacks, immigrants, anyone slightly to the left on the political spectrum.

Think about it. In order to so rabidly support taking away social safety nets, health care, and basic human rights from entire demographics, you need to believe that they are less deserving, less human. The only way they can hold onto these beliefs is by convincing themselves that everyone gets the same opportunities in life, and that the poor, and the sick, and those with different lifestyles, are only that way because they're lazy, or they've made bad choices. If they were just smarter and harder working they would have gone to university and got good jobs and been upper middle class and they'd have nothing to complain about.

If the BLM movement is allowed to be heard, it could lead to a global admission that their concerns are valid, and that's a big step towards humanizing one of their favorite scapegoats. And from there it's a slippery slope to human decency, and once a sickness like that takes hold, it's the end of the modern republican party.
And there my friend is the motivation behind almost all the wars and Pogrom's there ever have been. Make the enemy seem sub human and they are easier to **** and ****. War 101 Remember reading about the Huns ******* babies in WWI?
 
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Antifa is perhaps a more serious problem than one can think. This is not the matter of who is against Trump, this is more a matter of respect of the other individiuals which antifas don't know and will never know. For instance antifa rioters drag a woman by the hair trying to steal her American flag – she didn’t let it go. A big sign of cowardice and intolerance from the antifa
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/ant...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

Even Dan Crenshaw says antifa should be considered ‘more than just an ideology’. As he said:"“This is an ideology that has trained its members, makes shield wall phalanxes to ****** federal officers. It formed an autonomous zone in an American city and besieged a federal courthouse in another, so it just seems to be more than an ideology.”
https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/17/...spid=guwyouVECQKNAbXW4hJnC7iOXYFrIXwTNEOTXh_q
 
Antifa is perhaps a more serious problem than one can think. This is not the matter of who is against Trump, this is more a matter of respect of the other individiuals which antifas don't know and will never know. For instance antifa rioters drag a woman by the hair trying to steal her American flag – she didn’t let it go. A big sign of cowardice and intolerance from the antifa
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/ant...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

Even Dan Crenshaw says antifa should be considered ‘more than just an ideology’. As he said:"“This is an ideology that has trained its members, makes shield wall phalanxes to ****** federal officers. It formed an autonomous zone in an American city and besieged a federal courthouse in another, so it just seems to be more than an ideology.”
https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/17/...spid=guwyouVECQKNAbXW4hJnC7iOXYFrIXwTNEOTXh_q
antifa is every bit the threat that the medias makes "right wing militiaes" out to be but more because mikitias in Idaho etc those are people on record with lsenses for their weapons etc wheras antifas have zero regard for government and laws and are weaponized and endors violents
 

gmase

It's a new dawn.
Trump's Homeland Security
https://thehill.com/policy/national...report-released-after-months-long-delay-lists

“I am particularly concerned about white supremacist violent extremists who have been exceptionally lethal in their abhorrent, targeted attacks in recent years. I am proud of our work to prevent terrorizing tactics by domestic terrorists and violent extremists who seek to ***** ideological change in the United States through ********, death, and destruction,” wrote acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf.
 
EVEN dan crenshaw??? Even dan crenshaw!!! OMG, if EVEN dan crenshaw is saying it, it must be true!!!!
He is a former Navy Seal and I think he has more than enough knowledge regarding terrorism especially if he served in Afghanistan.
 

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I have no opinion
Looks like we are making Chop Suey again, Remember the definition is "everything together" Some of you are lumping everyone in the same boat either forgetting or purposely hoping everyone else forgets that all groups are made of of individuals. Just as some of the "Militias" may believe they are really defending America, I am sure some of the Antifas do as well. And percentage on both sides are complete assholes Rugged individualists on one side, Anarchists on the other. Neither worth a ****.
 
You may be making the same mistake assuming in the absence of the ********* social media posts that he has no political opinions but give it time and prepare your rebuttal for when they uncover Mr ********* Antifa BLM love he did after all go to work security for his local TV outlet slash Biden campaign headquarters why keep a body count of the fringe types ******* each other do you think it makes your argument?
 

Steve-FreeOnes

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You may be making the same mistake assuming in the absence of the ********* social media posts that he has no political opinions but give it time and prepare your rebuttal for when they uncover Mr ********* Antifa BLM love he did after all go to work security for his local TV outlet slash Biden campaign headquarters why keep a body count of the fringe types ******* each other do you think it makes your argument?

I'm not making an argument. I just enjoy seeing alt-righters being made to look stupider.
 
You may be making the same mistake assuming in the absence of the ********* social media posts that he has no political opinions but give it time and prepare your rebuttal for when they uncover Mr ********* Antifa BLM love he did after all go to work security for his local TV outlet slash Biden campaign headquarters why keep a body count of the fringe types ******* each other do you think it makes your argument?
Yeah that didn't take long guess he's a Bernie bro really hates his president yeah so
 

gmase

It's a new dawn.
This one's local for me. The shooter was not a licensed security guard, yet he was contracted by Pinkerton to provide security for a local news crew.

The channel investigating itself:
https://www.9news.com/article/news/...s-say/73-648ca0f2-cc71-4fa7-b145-cbd710b87f5f

The video leading up to the shooting is quite interesting as well. One youngster in a Black Guns Matter t-shirt yelling at a bunch of older guys carrying guns and mace. He was yelling 'mace me' so they did mace him. Then the so-called security guard shot his *** at the guy shooting the mace. It was all so ... avoidable.
 
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